Things that make you go Wow 😲

To be honest, I don’t want to ban guns or cars. I am a two time victim of gun violence, one at work and once in my personal life - both perpetrators did not acquire the gun legally. I had a minor hunting accident with a moron in college as well and took some bird shot to the arm - I do believe in training for firearms as well as a background check - and FBI background checks are required in all 50 States so let’s not note the ā€œguns show loop-holeā€ BS.

The sad part about firearms is they remind people of an awful truth - at the end of the day we are animals. While guns can be used for target shooting and plain old collecting (without shooting), we see guns daily on television portrayed in either a survival or hunting scenario. This is uncomfortable for some and God Bless them.

IMHO banning guns is a simple bait and switch by politicians to make it feel like ā€œthey are saving livesā€ as well as their biggest fear and what the 2nd Amendment was put in place for in the first place - protect tyranny.

If it is really about saving lives, I already mentioned banning cars - which would lead to double the lives saved - of course both of these examples is stating people (who Joe Rogan once noted are really good at inventing/improving things and that is our purpose) would not just figure out another way of violence or travel.

But if it is really about saving lives - how about making us more healthy? Ban the following:
- Alcohol
- Tobacco and related
- Sugar
- Junk food
Get the point?

It would crash the economy and really make people want to reach for guns to prevent an over-controlling government. Not to mention the corporate donors would cut the politicians off real fast. But it would save lives.

My medical coverage is through the roof because I am subsidizing someone that drinks five liters of soda a day loaded with a bottle of jack, while driving their car smoking darts to buy fast food on food stamps.

Here are the stats - remember - guns (not including suicide) account for less than 20k lives.

If it is about saving lives - there is lower hanging fruit.

Don’t get me started on electric cars being run off coal power plants.

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Wow. New property tax bill in the mail.

I figured those are coming. My mind was blown two years ago when I found out some of the new construction builds off Ramshorn Drive by Allaire were being assessed for over $30k in annual property taxes.
 
Just to add a little depth...how many of those gun deaths were due to school shootings? Don't get me wrong, 1 dead kid is too many. Heck, 1 wounded kid is too many, but when a gun debate jumps immediately to school shootings and saving kids' lives it feels like somebody it trying to take a shortcut to win a keyboard fight. How many kids are killed by drugs, stabbings, gang related crimes and indirectly piss poor education that leads them to very wrong life choices.
The education system is going downhill, yes, but don't give parents a pass. A lot of this is also a result of bad parenting, and just not being there for your kids.

To be honest, I don’t want to ban guns or cars. I am a two time victim of gun violence, one at work and once in my personal life - both perpetrators did not acquire the gun legally. I had a minor hunting accident with a moron in college as well and took some bird shot to the arm - I do believe in training for firearms as well as a background check - and FBI background checks are required in all 50 States so let’s not note the ā€œguns show loop-holeā€ BS.

The sad part about firearms is they remind people of an awful truth - at the end of the day we are animals. While guns can be used for target shooting and plain old collecting (without shooting), we see guns daily on television portrayed in either a survival or hunting scenario. This is uncomfortable for some and God Bless them.
One of the things that has happened over the last 30-40 years is the desensitization and glorification of violence. Look at video games, all of the most popular games are shooter games, starting with the youngest (Fortnight, Minecraft) to the older (GTA), complete with blood and guts. Kids play these games by the millions. Then there is "liberal" Hollywood. The egregious violence in movies and TV shows today is pretty striking, no? Stuff that would have been R or NC-17 30 years ago is on TV! I love the Walking Dead, but holy shit, Romero wouldn't have even attempted any of this in the 80's. You can't put out 4 John Wicks (and I love John Wick), on every streaming platform possible and TV, promote the shit out of it, but out of the other side of you mouth say "guns are bad, m'kay"?
 
To be honest, I don’t want to ban guns or cars. I am a two time victim of gun violence, one at work and once in my personal life - both perpetrators did not acquire the gun legally. I had a minor hunting accident with a moron in college as well and took some bird shot to the arm - I do believe in training for firearms as well as a background check - and FBI background checks are required in all 50 States so let’s not note the ā€œguns show loop-holeā€ BS.

The sad part about firearms is they remind people of an awful truth - at the end of the day we are animals. While guns can be used for target shooting and plain old collecting (without shooting), we see guns daily on television portrayed in either a survival or hunting scenario. This is uncomfortable for some and God Bless them.

IMHO banning guns is a simple bait and switch by politicians to make it feel like ā€œthey are saving livesā€ as well as their biggest fear and what the 2nd Amendment was put in place for in the first place - protect tyranny.

If it is really about saving lives, I already mentioned banning cars - which would lead to double the lives saved - of course both of these examples is stating people (who Joe Rogan once noted are really good at inventing/improving things and that is our purpose) would not just figure out another way of violence or travel.

But if it is really about saving lives - how about making us more healthy? Ban the following:
- Alcohol
- Tobacco and related
- Sugar
- Junk food
Get the point?

It would crash the economy and really make people want to reach for guns to prevent an over-controlling government. Not to mention the corporate donors would cut the politicians off real fast. But it would save lives.

My medical coverage is through the roof because I am subsidizing someone that drinks five liters of soda a day loaded with a bottle of jack, while driving their car smoking darts to buy fast food on food stamps.

Here are the stats - remember - guns (not including suicide) account for less than 20k lives.

If it is about saving lives - there is lower hanging fruit.

Don’t get me started on electric cars being run off coal power plants.

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So ill state again that im not anti guns....I still own 3 of them, although its such a pain, in NJ, I don't target shoot with them anymore. However, im not blind or can ignore this...... This is why I agree with you about training and background checks.

It just sinks the "gins don't kill people" statement...no they don't shoot people by themselves, but its pretty obvious what happens when you let anyone and everyone have them with no rules....as in some of our states.

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I equate (in a way...we have rights to own a gun, but not to drive) to what germany does with the no speed limit portions of the autobahn. There are countless studies showing how the no speed limit sections are FAR more deadly that the sections with speed limits....I saw one stating 66% high death rates. There is 0 reason to have no speed limits outside of people in Germany like driving fast and the will of the people is prevailing over safety. That doesn't bother me at all. However, its VERY hard in Germany to get a drivers license....up to 5 months of training and $4000...so not just anyone can drive. If I was a licensed driver in Germany, using the autobahn...I would be happy about this....Not just anyone and everyone is on the road with me. This is what I don't understand about a large portion of the right wing who want zero regulations of any kind on guns....You should embrace responsible gun ownership and preventing mentally ill people from having easy access to assault rifles.....I know this isnt really an argument for New Jersey as we at least have some common sense laws....but JFC, Texas...Shocking that Uvalde taught them absolutely nothing.

I know everyone rails against government regulation, and as a govt. contractor I can site you chapter and verse many cases of how absurd it can be. But im also not going to deny since 2001...we have had ONE person die on a domestic jet liner in the US....Over 800 million passengers PER YEAR for ~23 years!!! One person has died....That is the FAA, that is NOT the good CEOs of United, Delta, Boeing, etc
 
The education system is going downhill, yes, but don't give parents a pass. A lot of this is also a result of bad parenting, and just not being there for your kids.


One of the things that has happened over the last 30-40 years is the desensitization and glorification of violence. Look at video games, all of the most popular games are shooter games, starting with the youngest (Fortnight, Minecraft) to the older (GTA), complete with blood and guts. Kids play these games by the millions. Then there is "liberal" Hollywood. The egregious violence in movies and TV shows today is pretty striking, no? Stuff that would have been R or NC-17 30 years ago is on TV! I love the Walking Dead, but holy shit, Romero wouldn't have even attempted any of this in the 80's. You can't put out 4 John Wicks (and I love John Wick), on every streaming platform possible and TV, promote the shit out of it, but out of the other side of you mouth say "guns are bad, m'kay"?

I was addicted to the A-Team as a kid - there was tons of gun play in that show, but out of 98 episodes only one person was shot and killed.

The shows had a positive theme at the end.

Different times now.

The first Jon Wick was interesting - at this point (I think we are on four?) it is just hours of killing people - totally acceptable by the mainstream.

Yet movies like Revenge of the Nerds are deemed as ā€œoffensiveā€.
 
One of the things that has happened over the last 30-40 years is the desensitization and glorification of violence. Look at video games, all of the most popular games are shooter games, starting with the youngest (Fortnight, Minecraft) to the older (GTA), complete with blood and guts. Kids play these games by the millions. Then there is "liberal" Hollywood. The egregious violence in movies and TV shows today is pretty striking, no? Stuff that would have been R or NC-17 30 years ago is on TV! I love the Walking Dead, but holy shit, Romero wouldn't have even attempted any of this in the 80's. You can't put out 4 John Wicks (and I love John Wick), on every streaming platform possible and TV, promote the shit out of it, but out of the other side of you mouth say "guns are bad, m'kay"?
I don't know man, to me the most sick and twisted movie I can still recall seeing were from the 70s.....Clockwork orange, godfather, Apaclypse now, Deer hunter (omg that Russian roulette scene freaked me out as a kid....oh and I got to watch it bc hbo was just on the TV and my parents couldnt restrict movies like I can now) Deliverance, The omen, Death wish, Dirty harry, Taxi Driver.....
 
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So ill state again that im not anti guns....I still own 3 of them, although its such a pain, in NJ, I don't target shoot with them anymore. However, im not blind or can ignore this...... This is why I agree with you about training and background checks.

It just sinks the "gins don't kill people" statement...no they don't shoot people by themselves, but its pretty obvious what happens when you let anyone and everyone have them with no rules....as in some of our states.

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I equate (in a way...we have rights to own a gun, but not to drive) to what germany does with the no speed limit portions of the autobahn. There are countless studies showing how the no speed limit sections are FAR more deadly that the sections with speed limits....I saw one stating 66% high death rates. There is 0 reason to have no speed limits outside of people in Germany like driving fast and the will of the people is prevailing over safety. That doesn't bother me at all. However, its VERY hard in Germany to get a drivers license....up to 5 months of training and $4000...so not just anyone can drive. If I was a licensed driver in Germany, using the autobahn...I would be happy about this....Not just anyone and everyone is on the road with me. This is what I don't understand about a large portion of the right wing who want zero regulations of any kind on guns....You should embrace responsible gun ownership and preventing mentally ill people from having easy access to assault rifles.....I know this isnt really an argument for New Jersey as we at least have some common sense laws....but JFC, Texas...Shocking that Uvalde taught them absolutely nothing.

I know everyone rails against government regulation, and as a govt. contractor I can site you chapter and verse many cases of how absurd it can be. But im also not going to deny since 2001...we have had ONE person die on a domestic jet liner in the US....Over 800 million passengers PER YEAR for ~23 years!!! One person has died....That is the FAA, that is NOT the good CEOs of United, Delta, Boeing, etc
What is an assault rifle? Is that like an assault knife or assault fists?
 
I don't know man, to me the most sick and twisted movie I can still recall seeing were from the 70s.....Clockwork orange, godfather, Apaclypse now, Deer hunter (omg that Russian roulette scene freaked me out as a kid....oh and I got to watch it bc hbo was just on the TV and my parents couldnt restrict movies like I can now) Deliverance, The omen, Death wish, Dirty harry, Taxi Driver.....
Death Wish! My dad took me to that movie in the theaters, just looked it up, 1974. I was 6! He also took me to see Jeremiah Johnson. Both of those movies are really scary. I really don't know what he was thinking. That was parenting in the 70's. Half the parents smoked, the other half were drinking Martinis. I could do anything I wanted when I was a kid. All my friends would leave the house in the am on our bikes and get home for dinner. I think that parents today are way more involved than they were when I was a kid.
 
leave the house in the am on our bikes and get home for dinner
yep this was me in the summer time too

Clockwork orange,
somehow i saw this movie when I was probably 12-ish and it gave me nightmares for weeks.

in my early teens during BlockBuster's heyday we used to go to the store and rent the scariest movie we thought from the cover. The Evil Dead messed with my head for many months after that especially walking home at night from the park or my friends house.
 
Gen X - Watched scary movies with their parents.
Gen Z - Constant twitter stream of kids dying under rubble in Gaza, drone strikes in Ukraine, high school fights, violent robberies, etc.
 
Death Wish! My dad took me to that movie in the theaters, just looked it up, 1974. I was 6! He also took me to see Jeremiah Johnson. Both of those movies are really scary. I really don't know what he was thinking. That was parenting in the 70's. Half the parents smoked, the other half were drinking Martinis. I could do anything I wanted when I was a kid. All my friends would leave the house in the am on our bikes and get home for dinner. I think that parents today are way more involved than they were when I was a kid.
Yup, my parents didn't give a shit what i did for the most part.....My mom used to drop me off at action park when I was 11 with my 8 year old sister...."watch your sister, ill be back at X time to pick you up"......Would I ever do that with my 10 year old now? NFW with all of the drunken idiots that used to roam that place....Do I take my 10 year old to the bike park and do WAY more dangerous stuff (WITH HIM) then I ever did at action park....100% We do wear better protective gear tho.

yep this was me in the summer time too


somehow i saw this movie when I was probably 12-ish and it gave me nightmares for weeks.

in my early teens during BlockBuster's heyday we used to go to the store and rent the scariest movie we thought from the cover. The Evil Dead messed with my head for many months after that especially walking home at night from the park or my friends house.
omg, who remembers "Faces of Death"???? Im sorry, I can't think of much that compares to that dudes eyes popping out of his head in the electric chair. Granted, for years, I thought that was a real execution. There was no internet to tell me otherwise. Where as now...kids know all of this stuff is fake.
 
Gen X - Watched scary movies with their parents.
Gen Z - Constant twitter stream of kids dying under rubble in Gaza, drone strikes in Ukraine, high school fights, violent robberies, etc.

This is an interesting thing. The kids now are growing up with media of people dying on video. It's a tad more than we grew up with. Never really thought about this before.
 
This is an interesting thing. The kids now are growing up with media of people dying on video. It's a tad more than we grew up with. Never really thought about this before.

There's so much to digest with this.

The "kids" that we're talking about here tend to be far more insulated from actual, real world violence, and just death in general, than kids across a lot of the world and certainly kids for most of human history. I don't know what to make of the increased availability of videos of real people dying in wars, in accidents, in random acts of violence. In some ways at least it's a more accurate picture of the ugliness of humanity and the horrors of war as opposed to the glamorization of violence in something like the John Wick movies (not that I'm anti John Wick, I just wouldn't want my hypothetical 10 year old watching them). Maybe you could argue that there are some positives in that. That this at least gets away from some of the simplistic narratives of the "good guy with a gun" and could lead to more empathy and a better understanding of the world. Or maybe it's all just negative and further desensitizes kids to violence because it's still "other people" dying, all conveniently viewed on an iPhone. I have no idea.

"Wow".
 
The education system is going downhill, yes, but don't give parents a pass. A lot of this is also a result of bad parenting, and just not being there for your kids.
I don't disagree, but in some cases that may mean perpetrating a vicious cycle of abuse and neglect. I can't speak about how education and social services work in the US, but there should be some protection in obvious cases of child abuse without delegating to the government all the aspects of children lives.
 
Well despite violent movies, etc etc......Mass shooters/killers for the most part have a common trait if you read about them on a case by case basis...From Charles Wittman to the unibomber to Thomas Matthew Crooks....Most of them are/were socially isolated. To me that is the key factor in cultivating a mass killer....Not so much the movies they watched.
 
I figured those are coming. My mind was blown two years ago when I found out some of the new construction builds off Ramshorn Drive by Allaire were being assessed for over $30k in annual property taxes.
I'm in Metuchen so most lots are 1/8 acres. One house on my block was recently rebuilt and they are now paying $37k. That's a huge WOW when some other homes are still paying less than $7500.
 
There's so much to digest with this.

The "kids" that we're talking about here tend to be far more insulated from actual, real world violence, and just death in general, than kids across a lot of the world and certainly kids for most of human history. I don't know what to make of the increased availability of videos of real people dying in wars, in accidents, in random acts of violence. In some ways at least it's a more accurate picture of the ugliness of humanity and the horrors of war as opposed to the glamorization of violence in something like the John Wick movies (not that I'm anti John Wick, I just wouldn't want my hypothetical 10 year old watching them). Maybe you could argue that there are some positives in that. That this at least gets away from some of the simplistic narratives of the "good guy with a gun" and could lead to more empathy and a better understanding of the world. Or maybe it's all just negative and further desensitizes kids to violence because it's still "other people" dying, all conveniently viewed on an iPhone. I have no idea.

"Wow".

It's just so different now. I mean, I had nuclear bomb drills where we sat under the desks at school.šŸ‘ Kid's now have active shooter drills and then get to see the aftermath of real shootings every night on the news while eating dinner. It's just business as usual for them. When my son was in HS just a few years back he said everybody knew who their school shooter would be. Thankfully it never happened, but they knew who to watch out for.
 
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