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I'm also in the market for a new 6 string. I want either an RG with a trem, a Jem, or might just buy another Kirk. But go to the sparkle purple 602. Somewhere in the $1,500 range.
 
Monster fan of this thing. I loved my 402 before I broke it. I sold my YJM as much as I liked it because I need a proper trem for the meedley meeees. Then I can put up a proper Domination Cover 🤘🤘

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Related, if anyone is interested in a spectacular budget friendly multi scale 8 string, the Ghost will go up for sale soon enough. Thinking $700? The Performance is 1k new...

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Soundguy said:
That’s awesome! Any idea what models they are? I’m a big fan boy of both companies. When I had my Kiesel (formerly Carvin) built I had them use the Carvin logo vs Kiesel to pay homage to Becker. The dude in the custom shop said it might be the last guitar they built with the Carvin name, they discontinued it as an option right when I placed the order. And old school Mesa’s are just fucking great. The small combo amps from that era are so good for recording.
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Turns out the guitar is still here. Don't know the model but I bought it Nov 9, 1978. Serial # 46599. Pickups changed and tremolo added later:

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I think it depends on the genre. A Vintage Steve Vai Jem is from the 90's but a Les Paul or Strat would be 20-30 years older.
 
jimvreeland said:
I think it depends on the genre. A Vintage Steve Vai Jem is from the 90's but a Les Paul or Strat would be 20-30 years older.
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I was a fly on the wall at GC a couple of weeks ago listening to a sales guy describe a used Ibanez RG from the early 2000's as vintage which struck me as odd, and made me really feel old. It was nice, but nothing special, not even a Prestige or made in Japan model.
 
I've seen Guitar Center mark gear from the 2010's as vintage - they aren't the best at identifying gear either.
50's and 60's Les Pauls, Strats and Teles? Yes, vintage. 70's guitars are like neo-vintage because most of them can still be purchased for a "reasonable" price.
But, just because a guitar is old or vintage does not make it more valuable.
 
EJphotos said:
I've seen Guitar Center mark gear from the 2010's as vintage - they aren't the best at identifying gear either.
50's and 60's Les Pauls, Strats and Teles? Yes, vintage. 70's guitars are like neo-vintage because most of them can still be purchased for a "reasonable" price.
But, just because a guitar is old or vintage does not make it more valuable.
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That's along the lines of what I consider "vintage". I have an 80's Ibanez which is my favorite guitar, but I never considered it vintage because it still looks pretty good, plays good, and sounds amazing, it does the modern and vintage strat sound pretty well (may need a fret job).
I used to be obsessed with getting a Les Paul, but I realized that its the shape that I'm more attracted to. I think the prices of vintage Les Pauls and Strats are outrageous. Is that driven by playability or the artists that made them famous? They both have some unique tones, but alternatively guitars these days are so good in terms of playability and tone, its hard for me to justify paying an outrageous price for something older. I would rather find another Japanese Ibanez like the one I own if I really wanted something older.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
That's along the lines of what I consider "vintage". I have an 80's Ibanez which is my favorite guitar, but I never considered it vintage because it still looks pretty good, plays good, and sounds amazing, it does the modern and vintage strat sound pretty well (may need a fret job).
I used to be obsessed with getting a Les Paul, but I realized that its the shape that I'm more attracted to. I think the prices of vintage Les Pauls and Strats are outrageous. Is that driven by playability or the artists that made them famous? They both have some unique tones, but alternatively guitars these days are so good in terms of playability and tone, its hard for me to justify paying an outrageous price for something older. I would rather find another Japanese Ibanez like the one I own if I really wanted something older.
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Vintage Guitars are like Vintage everything else, they trigger some nostalgia that makes old white men cream in their pants and empty their bank accounts. I'm at some point in my life I'll be old and nostagic enough to drop 7k on a MIJ 90's Jem. But right now you can buy the guitar eqivalence of an F1 car for $2,500 brand new.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
Is that driven by playability or the artists that made them famous?
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Gibson is probably the only guitar worthy of the vintage price. Once you’ve played a ‘69 Les Paul you quickly realize how far downhill their quality has gone. They’ve had all kinds of law suits for using illegal woods and just shitty wood in general. They are so mass produced now that they just don’t have the same feel. Particularly sometime after the early 2000’s it’s like they just quit trying. Only a custom shop LP is going to have that authentic feel. I have a 2005 LP Studio that I absolutely love, but it feels like a cheap knock off compared to the originals.
 
Soundguy said:
Gibson is probably the only guitar worthy of the vintage price. Once you’ve played a ‘69 Les Paul you quickly realize how far downhill their quality has gone. They’ve had all kinds of law suits for using illegal woods and just shitty wood in general. They are so mass produced now that they just don’t have the same feel. Particularly sometime after the early 2000’s it’s like they just quit trying. Only a custom shop LP is going to have that authentic feel. I have a 2005 LP Studio that I absolutely love, but it feels like a cheap knock off compared to the originals.
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I never played a vintage Les Paul like that, but all the Standards that I've played were crap. Full disclosure, I have a 67-69 SG that was gifted to me years ago, it looked like someone used it as a baseball bat, in absolutely atrocious condition. The original trem was ripped off and replaced with a stop-bar, had a cracked neck (in the good direction, string tension kept it together), the original finish is almost gone. I got it professionally cleaned up and it sounds good, but the frets are so low its a challenge to bend. I wanted to re-fret it but the guy that cleaned it up for me insisted that I shouldn't. Its the guitar equivalent of a 68 Camaro in rust and primer with no exhaust and worn-out tires.

And I need to revise my statement. If I had the money, there is one "vintage" guitar that I would buy over all the others, a made in USA Washburn Dime.
 
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