Plan on doing a figure 8 loop, passing by the west picnic lot around midpoit so repairs food etc. could be made. could be anywhere from 4 - 14 miles depending on where you want to cut the ride.( Benifit of starting at the west picnic area).. ride will be beginer freindly, so the pace won't be too bad, will def. stop at ends of trails if the group breaks up. Will be at least one other beginer there, maybe an intermediate rider or two..