Owner of Gazelle bikes buys Cannondale, Schwinn for $810 million

serviceguy said:
I don't seem to be able and express myself correctly.

All your spiel makes sense if you omit the basic information that is the very same industry making their own product obsolete so they can push the next thing in spite of little to no real improvement (for the masses). Comparison to an old PC is both inaccurate and misleading, I recently resurrected my 13 years old pc with just an HD upgrade and it performs better than some 2 years old laptop we have at work (both in terms of performances and reliability) for what a PC does. Processing multiple rendering in 4K (if that is even a thing)...probably not so much, but how many of those you do on a daily (or monthly, or yearly) basis. Also, there has been some significant improvement in the performances of the HW that would justify updating to newer model (and there's a lot to say in the way SW is being developed but that would take too long).

How long have you been using Gigabit ports on the average office network? Forever. What determines if a switch can be repaired? Availability of parts? And who decides to push parts out of production even though viable from a performance standard point of view? The issue in my view is the fact that we are well into a monopoly oriented market rather than actual free market as it is proclaimed, kind of like Cuba had free elections with only one candidate on the ballot by his own decision...but I think we like that model now. If the 'industry' say jump you jump and post on social media how much you loved it (not before asking how high)!
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the old pc performs better because there is a problem with the new laptops. and the old pc isn't really performing "better",
it is performing acceptably for what you do. (i'm a cloud guy anyway, just give me a fast, reliable network 😉 )

Ok - i hear you. they push incremental improvements, and obsolete or don't support their old line-up.
Let me get my 2012 AL hardtail rolling, and report back.
although i already upgraded the fork, the brakes, converted to 1x electro-mechanical shifting, 10sp->11sp, went with a dub crankset,
and carbon hoops w/dt350 convertible hubs from shimano proprietary which they stopped supplying spokes, shorter stem, wider bars, and considering a dropper.

Speaking of which, i have XO 3x10sp grip shift & der for sale. maybe throw in a 3x crank.
 
Patrick said:
the old pc performs better because there is a problem with the new laptops. and the old pc isn't really performing "better",
it is performing acceptably for what you do. (i'm a cloud guy anyway, just give me a fast, reliable network 😉 )

Ok - i hear you. they push incremental improvements, and obsolete or don't support their old line-up.
Let me get my 2012 AL hardtail rolling, and report back.
although i already upgraded the fork, the brakes, converted to 1x electro-mechanical shifting, 10sp->11sp, went with a dub crankset,
and carbon hoops w/dt350 convertible hubs from shimano proprietary which they stopped supplying spokes, shorter stem, wider bars, and considering a dropper.

Speaking of which, i have XO 3x10sp grip shift & der for sale. maybe throw in a 3x crank.
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Again, broad brush and selective stroke, probably on both sides of the argument, just like anything 2021! Have we gone off topic enough?
 
Santapez said:
I'm willing to bet there's plenty of people that would be happy to return their S-Works whatever at the end of the lease and grab the newest version at that time on a new lease. Especially on the road side. And the store now has a high-end bike that's maintained to sell while keeping that original customer.
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Out of curiosity I googled - there is a bicycle leasing company - but only for southern california:

https://www.wheelease.com/

Only lease options are 12 or 24 months. So if I wanted to go this route with a high end bike like a SC blur AXS ($9K) - it would be $900 every two years plus $225 + tax payments every month - assuming the bike is turned in for a new one every 2 years. That's a car payment for many people. And what happens when you turn it in? Are you charged for any worn component? How about every scratch and ding??
 
I was there at the beginning when it was just 4 of us. Our boss got fired (he earned it), the rest of us quit, and Dorel bought Cannondale, GT, and Pacific to replace us. Oversimplified, yes, but I am not kidding.
 
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