Dry January 2025 (The Sober Thread)

Soundguy said:
Harvard was doing studies like 30 years ago that ended up showing moderate marijuana use actually improved lung function to some degree
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Smoking weed has to not be as bad for you as smoking cigarettes because chemicals, but this seems pretty far fetched. I can't see how burning anything and inhaling the smoke can be good for your lungs, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
JimN said:
Smoking weed has to not be as bad for you as smoking cigarettes because chemicals, but this seems pretty far fetched. I can't see how burning anything and inhaling the smoke can be good for your lungs, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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No I’m totally with you. I’m just saying there is so much contradicting information out there. Back to the point of this; marijuana should not be grouped with alcohol or opiates. It is so harmless in comparison.
 
Johnny Utah said:
Eleven days tonight.

- Sleep is back to being awesome
- One cup of coffee is more than enough
- Wallet is fatter

I had my work Xmas party last week, while I over indulged on food I was coffee/tea guy. Several people put the heavy peer pressure on, but I laughed it off. Had this been my first sober winter the peer pressure would have hit different, the current culture is definitely not with the “non drinker”

That being said I would be willing to punch myself in the crotch for a cheat of three IPA’s, a plate of wings and electrified music.
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Its amazing how anti-social "social" situations can become. I always bring a small cooler of NA's because that satisfy my taste cravings and I fit in a little better. A good NA will balance the pizza and wings better than any soda, iced tea, or seltzer can. Plus, even though I'm smart enough to know better, that taste tells my brain to relax.

Plus, I'm sure you could find plenty of people willing to punch you in the crotch. Maybe without even asking....
 
On a quick note - I'm not sure discussing replacing one substance with another is appropriate.
It is disrespectful to the people that are working every day to eliminate addiction from their lives.

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I've found that my social (dis)comfort is dependent on the group or the first vibe I get.

I'm all up for a little teasing from those who are supportive,
cause in the end it is ok if i try and fail, or don't try cause it seems above my pay grade at the time....
Either riding or socializing...

If at this point in time, someone badgers you for not drinking after one little jab, they have the problem.
Might want to remind them that they aren't being judged for drinking....
 
Patrick said:
On a quick note - I'm not sure discussing replacing one substance with another is appropriate.
It is disrespectful to the people that are working every day to eliminate addiction from their lives.
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I think this was discussed previously in this thread, and I agree. However, it was said that all of those substances are equally bad, and some of us disagree. Not suggesting you should do one because it's less bad than another though.
 
Soundguy said:
Mostly, This ^

But also, there is so much wrong with that article lol. Harvard was doing studies like 30 years ago that ended up showing moderate marijuana use actually improved lung function to some degree. And that was with people smoking joints.

Pot smokers can maybe breathe a little easier - Harvard Health

Regular marijuana use does not appear to have a negative effect on lung function....
www.health.harvard.edu www.health.harvard.edu
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I have nothing against weed, but if you smoke a pack of joints a day, like smokers smoke a pack of grits, then you will suffer the same fate as a smoker. The article even alludes to this. Also, I know a lot of pot-heads who get high every day, multiple times a day. They're definitely not as cognitively "there" as my non-weed friends (purely anecdotal). Same can be said for the people I know who are alcoholic, or borderline.

Soundguy said:
No I’m totally with you. I’m just saying there is so much contradicting information out there. Back to the point of this; marijuana should not be grouped with alcohol or opiates. It is so harmless in comparison.
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Why shouldn't it? Its not the same until someone who's high buries their car into the side of yours.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
Why shouldn't it? Its not the same until someone who's high buries their car into the side of yours.
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He's saying that using marijuana is harmless to yourself unless you are smoking it. Using it and driving is obviously not harmless.

Soundguy said:
Marijuana has virtually zero health related side effects. I mean obviously we don’t want kids getting stoned in school, driving, going to work, whatever; but there really aren’t any physical side effects unless you are super old school and still smoke paper.
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Patrick said:
I'm not sure discussing replacing one substance with another is appropriate.
It is disrespectful to the people that are working every day to eliminate addiction from their lives.
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I hope that’s not how my comments came across. I’m not saying to replace booze with THC. I’m just saying all of those other drugs can kill you. You can drop dead the first time you touch heroin. Marijuana is harmless in that regard, so I don’t think it should be grouped with deadly substances. I’ve also never seen a person get too stoned to walk. Doctors are out here prescribing Percocet like it’s candy while THC, which is totally safe and not chemically addictive, is illegal and considered taboo. We watch people drink themselves to death on a regular basis but the guy that puffs a bowl before bed to help with sleep is a degenerate? It doesn’t make sense.

I’d also like to point out that there are so many different forms of alcoholism. You don’t have to be chemically dependent to be an alcoholic, most of the folks in AA never reaches that point…but still their lives had become unmanageable and this they choose to seek help. Chemical dependency is an extremely scary thing to watch. Imagine going two hours without a drink and your tremors are so bad you can’t pick up a glass of water. Or having to take a shot in the middle of the night to steady your knees so you can make it to the bathroom. Eventually organs start to shut down and the body pretty much commits suicide. If you saw the reality of a chemically dependent alcoholic there is no way you could lump marijuana in with that crowd. I wouldn’t wish that shit on my worst enemy.
 
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JimN said:
He's saying that using marijuana is harmless to yourself unless you are smoking it. Using it and driving is obviously not harmless.
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Come on, nothing is harmless, everything has its cost.

Soundguy said:
I hope that’s not how my comments came across. I’m not saying to replace booze with THC. I’m just saying all of those other drugs can kill you. You can drop dead the first time you touch heroin. Marijuana is harmless in that regard, so I don’t think it should be grouped with deadly substances. I’ve also never seen a person get too stoned to walk. Doctors are out here prescribing Percocet like it’s candy while THC, which is totally safe and not chemically addictive, is illegal and considered taboo. We watch people drink themselves to death on a regular basis but the guy that puffs a bowl before bed to help with sleep is a degenerate? It doesn’t make sense.

I’d also like to point out that there are so many different forms of alcoholism. You don’t have to be chemically dependent to be an alcoholic, most of the folks in AA never reaches that point…but still their lives had become unmanageable and this they choose to seek help. Chemical dependency is an extremely scary thing to watch. Imagine going two hours without a drink and your tremors are so bad you can’t pick up a glass of water. Or having to take a shot in the middle of the night to steady your knees so you can make it to the bathroom. If you saw the reality of a chemically dependent alcoholic there is no way you could lump marijuana in with that crowd. I wouldn’t wish that shit on my worst enemy.
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It’s legal now though, so its been destygmatized. I can’t believe the number of “dads” that have come out in town that are pot heads, straight-laced dudes you’d never suspect. I don’t think you’d be viewed as any more of a derelict walking down the street smoking a J than someone drinking a can of PBR. Your not supposed to be doing either out on the street.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
Come on, nothing is harmless, everything has its cost.


It’s legal now though, so it’s been destygmatized. I can’t believe the number of “dads” that have come out in town that are pot heads, strait-laced dudes you’d never suspect. I don’t think you’d be viewed as any more of a derelict walking down the street smoking a J than someone drinking a can of PBR. You’re not supposed to be doing either out on the street.
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It is very illegal where I live lol.
 
JimN said:
Smoking weed has to not be as bad for you as smoking cigarettes because chemicals, but this seems pretty far fetched. I can't see how burning anything and inhaling the smoke can be good for your lungs, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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When it became legal in NJ, I told myself if im gonna get stoned from inhaling, im gonna do it the least harmful way I could find. I spent $200 on a PAX vape. Just flower, no oils or concentrate. Still not healthy but sometimes I wanna melt into the couch.
 
Soundguy said:
No I’m totally with you. I’m just saying there is so much contradicting information out there. Back to the point of this; marijuana should not be grouped with alcohol or opiates. It is so harmless in comparison.
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Well, sorta. I get paranoid when I smoke. My friend’s brother in germany is in a permanent psych hospital with paranoid schitzphrinia . I thought she said it was linked to the weed he used to smoke.
 
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