Cars, it's electric! Do Do Do

You guys act like everyone has a gas pump in their garage. 🙂

If you park on the street you'll have to hit up a charging station every now and then. Yeah it'll be longer than usual compared to a gas station but if electric cars are more popular in a few years you'll see way more charging stations at shopping centers. So basically charge up where you're going before you come home and park in the street.
 
Santapez said:
You guys act like everyone has a gas pump in their garage. 🙂

If you park on the street you'll have to hit up a charging station every now and then. Yeah it'll be longer than usual compared to a gas station but if electric cars are more popular in a few years you'll see way more charging stations at shopping centers. So basically charge up where you're going before you come home and park in the street.
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plus in 15 years, im going to venture a guess that they will have charging times down to something close to filling your car with gas.
 
UtahJoe said:
plus in 15 years, im going to venture a guess that they will have charging times down to something close to filling your car with gas.
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I kind of doubt it due to two reasons:

-Incoming power will be very high, even at the higher DC fast charge rates. High watts through a cable into a car has a lot of downsides, including the infrastructure to get it to the charger.
-Batteries don't like charging fast nor being charge high.

But if you have an integrated system where you can swipe your loyalty card or the charger talks to your car, you can just plug it in at every destination quickly and go. Food shop for 45 minutes, it's 45 minutes of charge. 15 minute haircut it's a little more charging etc.

It may also be a revenue generator for new parking garages going into cities.

I'm wondering when electric cars start making sense to own. It may be just a few years.
 
Santapez said:
I kind of doubt it due to two reasons:

-Incoming power will be very high, even at the higher DC fast charge rates. High watts through a cable into a car has a lot of downsides, including the infrastructure to get it to the charger.
-Batteries don't like charging fast nor being charge high.

But if you have an integrated system where you can swipe your loyalty card or the charger talks to your car, you can just plug it in at every destination quickly and go. Food shop for 45 minutes, it's 45 minutes of charge. 15 minute haircut it's a little more charging etc.

It may also be a revenue generator for new parking garages going into cities.

I'm wondering when electric cars start making sense to own. It may be just a few years.
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Or...

https://www.dbusiness.com/daily-new...e-patent-for-ev-tech-to-shorten-charge-times/
 
Santapez said:
And companies at working on curing cancer. A liquid nitrogen cooled super conductor cable would work great for charging a car, but I don't expect those to be at Wegmans.

And that helps with the cable but not the batteries themselves.
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Hey I don't know crap about this but saw that news blurb a few days ago. Charging time isn't an issue for me now, but I'm sure it will improve with time.
 
rick81721 said:
Hey I don't know crap about this but saw that news blurb a few days ago. Charging time isn't an issue for me now, but I'm sure it will improve with time.
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Remember when computers were the size of a room because vacuum tubes were big? People thought nobody would ever have a computer in their house, let alone in their pocket or on their wrist.
 
JimN said:
Remember when computers were the size of a room because vacuum tubes were big? People thought nobody would ever have a computer in their house, let alone in their pocket or on their wrist.
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Except computers and the multiple technologies that enable them began to evolve immediately following those room size computers. Contrast that with battery technology (and solar, and wind) that has been evolving at the speed of a slug. What is that big technological revolution that is suddenly going to compress everything into a time span of 10-15yrs?
 
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Monkey Soup said:
What is that big technological revolution that is suddenly going to compress everything into a time span of 10-15yrs?
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If I knew, I'd probably be rich and retired. Just because battery tech has been evolving slowly, doesn't mean there won't be major advancements.

Patrick said:
Yup - no Moore's Law for batteries
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There was no Moore's law before the transistor was invented.

Unfortunately, I don't know everything like most people here, but I can say that just because some technology doesn't exist now, doesn't mean it won't exist "soon," for some definition of soon.
 
JimN said:
There was no Moore's law before the transistor was invented.

Unfortunately, I don't know everything like most people here, but I can say that just because some technology doesn't exist now, doesn't mean it won't exist "soon," for some definition of soon.
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interesting observation. cause we are close to the physical limits of transistors now
Does it apply to quantum computing?
rather than transistors, is it really information storage and computational power that follows the curve?

So thank you Al Gore. 😉

super capacitors might be the answer. just like fuel cells. micro nuclear, etc,
i'm confident it will get sorted.
how about localized anti gravity? could make the car seem like it is always going downhill.
no more lift lines!
 
JimN said:
If I knew, I'd probably be rich and retired. Just because battery tech has been evolving slowly, doesn't mean there won't be major advancements.
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Except its not like batteries and charging are new, and the need is not really higher now than it was before. The current technology is stretched to its limit, there needs to be a brand new technology to change the game. I also think battery power is a dead-end. Suppose we all switch to 4-wheeled iPhones tomorrow, our electrical grid sucks, and you still need to deplete a fuel rod or burn a lump of coal somewhere (solar and wind suffer from the same technological issues as batteries). If man kinds future is batteries, then we're in a sad state (except for the adult-toy industry).
Patrick said:
how about localized anti gravity? could make the car seem like it is always going downhill.
no more lift lines!
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If the government let Bob Lazar's anti-gravity motor out of Area 51, then we could all just worm-hole or warp our way around.
 
Monkey Soup said:
The current technology is stretched to its limit, there needs to be a brand new technology to change the game.
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I feel like we're saying the same thing. I'm not suggesting someone is gonna use our current technology to make a Duracell battery that charges in two seconds and provides a hundred times more power.

Monkey Soup said:
our electrical grid sucks, and you still need to deplete a fuel rod or burn a lump of coal somewhere (solar and wind suffer from the same technological issues as batteries).
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This is true currently. We need technological advancement to happen in many areas.
 
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