Car-spotting thread

R8-Bill's brother in law and an acquaintance of mine bought this yesterday. He's been looking for awhile. 2016 Cayman GTS. GTS interior package, 6 speed manual, black on black on black, 11,500 miles. Fresh oil and plugs. Original tires, so you know it's been babied and not tracked. DME report was 0 overrevs. Needs a paint correction and new tires and it's good to go. CT State Police are as bright as NJSP. Trooper said the plate didn't come back to anything. He ran it wrong.

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btw, what does your DME report say carson? (this engine once got within 500 rpm of the rev limiter....Carson had it removed and sent to florida for a month long vacation)

I can just imagine how many Porsche sales are ruined by this.....
 
R8-Bill's brother in law and an acquaintance of mine bought this yesterday. He's been looking for awhile. 2016 Cayman GTS. GTS interior package, 6 speed manual, black on black on black, 11,500 miles. Fresh oil and plugs. Original tires, so you know it's been babied and not tracked. DME report was 0 overrevs. Needs a paint correction and new tires and it's good to go. CT State Police are as bright as NJSP. Trooper said the plate didn't come back to anything. He ran it wrong.

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Why change plugs at 11k miles, considering the PITA it is to change plugs on that car? Overreving that car in any gear but neutral and you're breaking the speed limit wherever you are. And will he sell it before it hits 15k?
 
Why change plugs at 11k miles, considering the PITA it is to change plugs on that car? Overreving that car in any gear but neutral and you're breaking the speed limit wherever you are. And will he sell it before it hits 15k?

They have been known to seize in the head. So every 4 years. And he let the dealer take the risk on the seizing. They were fine.
 
I don’t know man, this sounds like another way for Porsche to get owners to drop a rack on another service.

While I generally agree with you, this advice came straight from a Porsche tech friend. Doesn't mean he hasn't drank the cool-aid, but he had no reason to mislead. Basically, the cost of changing every 4 is alot better than dealing with a seized plug. And they are fairly easy to DIY.
 
What plugs do the Porsches use?

Haven't recently gone down the rabbit hole of spark plugs trying to find out if I should use anti-seize or not, NGK seems to have plugs that don't seize figured out.
Bosch has been the oem for years, but not sure on the newer ones if that's still the case. The Bosch for my car is NLA so NGK was the recommended alternative
 
I don’t know man, this sounds like another way for Porsche to get owners to drop a rack on another service.
This is like Porsche dealer service 101...."we have special material we make cyl heads out of called aluminum......combined with another special metal we make our spark plugs out of.....the combination of these rare metals is key to your vehicles superior performance....however, it means that every 4 year...(much like the returning of the swallows to Capistrano) a reaction occurs in which these two metals will form an unbreakable bond.....we can prevent this for a measly $2000....and all the free dealership coffee you can drink"
 
This is like Porsche dealer service 101...."we have special material we make cyl heads out of called aluminum......combined with another special metal we make our spark plugs out of.....the combination of these rare metals is key to your vehicles superior performance....however, it means that every 4 year...(much like the returning of the swallows to Capistrano) a reaction occurs in which these two metals will form an unbreakable bond.....we can prevent this for a measly $2000....and all the free dealership coffee you can drink"
Ok, so on the one hand I can understand this, the plugs and head are made from different metals with different thermal expansion coefficients, and over the course of seasonal changes and driving maybe some corrosion can form between the metal threads of the plug and aluminum heads that could cause seizing (this is a very German way of overthinking). On the other hand, I've changed plugs in aluminum heads that were way, way over 4 years with zero issues. Its called using a torque wrench correctly when you put them in.

Changing the plugs on a Cayman isn't exactly an easy DIY either, its a PITA. You have to take the wheels of the car, navigate around the exhaust plumbing to reach the plugs which are super recessed in the head. There's a lot of cursing and contortion. If you have a turbocharged 911, you also have to take the rear bumper off, then move the radiators to reach the plugs. Lots of $$$$ and coffee at the dealer.
 
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