Car-spotting thread

Carson said:
100%. At least for another year you can.
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They’ve been done in Europe, will be interesting to see if they actually stop next year. All indications are it may be true. The car is frozen in time from a tech perspective, everything is still analog, the nav is pathetic, but that’s what CarPlay is for. The speedometer is a joke, it moves in 25mph increments, if it weren’t for the digital display you’d only have a ballpark for how fast your going. I wouldn’t trade it for the digital though, I love it.
 
Carson said:
Prices on manuals 996s are starting to creep back up. They are now seen high value for the driving experience they provide. Fried egg headlights not withstanding.

996 GT3s are back to very low six figures for low mileage cars.
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If I had garage space and not a kid in college a 996 Turbo would be on my look at list.

I'm not sure what the carry costs are but this recent example on BaT seems like a lot of fun for $60k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-porsche-911-turbo-coupe-61/
 
don said:
If I had garage space and not a kid in college a 996 Turbo would be on my look at list.

I'm not sure what the carry costs are but this recent example on BaT seems like a lot of fun for $60k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-porsche-911-turbo-coupe-61/
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A guy at my old job daily'ed a 996 turbo manual. Its the only 996 I'd consider if I could find one for a reasonable price. Things like oil changes are pretty straight forward, other things not so much. For example, to change the spark plugs you need to take the rear bumper off, then the intercoolers, then some other shields and covers before you can actually get to the spark plugs.
icebiker said:
So now the last bastion of understated sporty styling, Audi, is bowing to the ugly front-end trend 🙄
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Audi, BMW, Benz are already pivoting internally to push their electrification plans way out so that their sales don't fall off a cliff since the actual consumer demand isn't really there.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
A guy at my old job daily'ed a 996 turbo manual. Its the only 996 I'd consider if I could find one for a reasonable price. Things like oil changes are pretty straight forward, other things not so much. For example, to change the spark plugs you need to take the rear bumper off, then the intercoolers, then some other shields and covers before you can actually get to the spark plugs.

Audi, BMW, Benz are already pivoting internally to push their electrification plans way out so that their sales don't fall off a cliff since the actual consumer demand isn't really there.
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From what I've read the Mezger engines are robust and with the 996 turbo version it seems like it's not as rung out the larger displacement / higher redline ones.

Compared to other cars of that power and performance era the spark plug job doesn't seem too bad. I think I saw a video that the way Porsche engineered the layout makes sense and it is straight forward to remove and put back on items in and around the engine bay.
 
don said:
From what I've read the Mezger engines are robust and with the 996 turbo version it seems like it's not as rung out the larger displacement / higher redline ones.

Compared to other cars of that power and performance era the spark plug job doesn't seem too bad. I think I saw a video that the way Porsche engineered the layout makes sense and it is straight forward to remove and put back on items in and around the engine bay.
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I don't know man, there's nothing straight forward about removing bumpers, intercoolers, and the 5000 fasteners that come in 4 different sizes unless you have a lift, lots of room, and lots of time? In other cars of that power and performance from that era, you pop the hood and the plugs are right there. Maybe you have to move a coolant reservoir or some hoses out of the way? 30min. job?

icebiker said:
But why do they have to make such ugly cars? 🤷‍♂️ If beauty is in the eye of the beholder the beholders are blind. 😜
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I don't know, somehow the German's got it into their collective ideology that futuristic = ugly? BMW couldn't find a more creative way to differentiate their ugly electric cars
from their marginally less ugly gas cars? Audi just said "hold my bier".
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
I don't know man, there's nothing straight forward about removing bumpers, intercoolers, and the 5000 fasteners that come in 4 different sizes unless you have a lift, lots of room, and lots of time? In other cars of that power and performance from that era, you pop the hood and the plugs are right there. Maybe you have to move a coolant reservoir or some hoses out of the way? 30min. job?
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I guess I was propping up the 996 Turbo and comparing it with the more exotic Italian brands where maintenance gets a whole lot more complex and expensive.

But when comparing to a front NA engine C5 Corvette or E46 BMW M3 you are totally correct.
 
don said:
I guess I was propping up the 996 Turbo and comparing it with the more exotic Italian brands where maintenance gets a whole lot more complex and expensive.

But when comparing to a front NA engine C5 Corvette or E46 BMW M3 you are totally correct.
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Plugs on my 360 are way easier than a 996 but ... the 996 is built to this weird German thing called 'tolerances'. Sure, you have to take a bunch of shit off but it all fits back perfectly when you're done. We put an exhaust on my friend's 996 TT way back, which required all the same work as a plug swap and laughed at how everything just fit. Swap an exhaust on my 360 and everything is adjustable ('tolerances? it's slotted idiota!") and you just keep going until it's good enough for Beer Time and you never look closely at it again.
 
Magic said:
That looks like one of those clip on turbo whistles, lol. They both function on the VQs.
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