E-bikes are a thing

[mwlikesbikes]

But you can bring a knife on a plane already.

I prefer the element of surprise…

 

[Steve Vai]

This shows how dominant the metric system is with bicycles. You try to use the only English measurements on a bike and that confuses people. Also, that customer must be a newbie.

That’s every customer 😂 Anytime you try to swap one measurement for the other people’s brains just shut down.

 

[mfennell]

Vaguely on-topic, my friend showed me his kid's (kid to me - he's in his early 20s) built-to-the-moon surron lightbee the other day. He thinks the build was close to $15k! 31kw -> 40hp. Running a monstrous 81V/45aH pack. His son told me later that he has a 51kw controller on order. 65hp...

 

[Pearl]

i bet that thing rips. my lit shit rocket easily does 35+ with a 72v/20ah battery lol

 

[tonyride]

Vaguely on-topic, my friend showed me his kid's (kid to me - he's in his early 20s) built-to-the-moon surron lightbee the other day. He thinks the build was close to $15k! 31kw -> 40hp. Running a monstrous 81V/45aH pack. His son told me later that he has a 51kw controller on order. 65hp...

Looks like that kid wants to kill himself very fast... and maybe take a couple of other with him. Unless that's strictly for off-road use.

 

[krink]

metric spork?

btw, I've also seen them with a serrated edge........

Happy Birthday Patrick! Have a great day, spork or no spork.

 

[a.s.]

Happy Birthday Patrick! Have a great day, spork or no spork.

Oh snap! 😀 May your day be filled with overpowered and unlicensed pedal assist bicycles! @Patrick

 

[Piston Honda]

HBD @Patrick!! 🎉 🎁🎂

 

[qclabrat]

What I mean, is you were in shape, I was a fat fuck. I struggled for a while just riding Patriot's Path. If I had an e-bike available as an option at the time it's a definite possibility I started there. So I'm not disagreeing with your perspective, I'm saying other people are different.

And not saying starting with an E-Bike would have been right or wrong for me, except maybe any E-Bike in my budget would have been an absolute POS it turned me off to biking.

Do you have pics? Can't visualize you fat

 

[Santapez]

Do you have pics? Can't visualize you fat

I'm not sharing those!

@UtahJoe may actually have that picture of me/him and some other people and we look like we our current selves ate a normal sized human being.

 

[UtahJoe]

I'm not sharing those!

@UtahJoe may actually have that picture of me/him and some other people and we look like we our current selves ate a normal sized human being.

Man, I know the one your talking about but not sure where it is

 

[Ian F]

Well... looks like the Athertons are about to release an e-bike. Should be an interesting - and almost certainly expensive - bike.



But given the experience with my Heckler, I'm definitely cautious about buying an e-bike without an established dealer support system.

 

[Steve Vai]

I’m pretty sure this group has no idea what the Classes of e bikes are. Any 28mph bike is class 3. The Levo SL is the only Class 1 bike specialized sells so they’re actively fighting to have LBS bikes legislated.

 

[The Kalmyk]

Vaguely on-topic, my friend showed me his kid's (kid to me - he's in his early 20s) built-to-the-moon surron lightbee the other day. He thinks the build was close to $15k! 31kw -> 40hp. Running a monstrous 81V/45aH pack. His son told me later that he has a 51kw controller on order. 65hp...

My son has one just like this. Completely unnecessary

 

[SAM]

Maybe it's because electric bike clarifications are very confusing.

According to NJ, Class 3 ebikes are pedal bicycles with a gas (haha) or an electric motor assisting up to 25 mph max or a pedal bicycle with an electric motor assisting up to 28 mph max. Throttles are optional. This is stoopid. IMO, motorized bikes with a throttle should be in their own class and are very different animals from bikes you have to pedal to get assistance.

Here is the text defining Class 3 ebikes from page 18 of the 51 page "Micromobility Gude" (reviewed by NJDOT). Only 51 pages haha. From May 2025, so maybe all this classification confusion is going away with the new legislation.

I attached the micromobility doc:

 

[Steve Vai]

Maybe it's because electric bike clarifications are very confusing.

According to NJ, Class 3 ebikes are pedal bicycles with a gas (haha) or an electric motor assisting up to 25 mph max or a pedal bicycle with an electric motor assisting up to 28 mph max. Throttles are optional. This is stoopid. IMO, motorized bikes with a throttle should be in their own class and are very different animals from bikes you have to pedal to get assistance.

Here is the text defining Class 3 ebikes from page 18 of the 51 page "Micromobility Gude" (reviewed by NJDOT). Only 51 pages haha. From May 2025, so maybe all this classification confusion is going away with the new legislation.

View attachment 273707

I attached the micromobility doc:

It's actually super easy, anything over 25mph is Class 3 no matter how it's powered.

 

[SAM]

It's actually super easy, anything over 25mph is Class 3 no matter how it's powered.

Yes, true, but the last bolded bullet in the definition you posted is incorrect. Class 3 are not necessarily Pedal assist + Throttle. They might be pedal assist only (no throttle) but they must be pedal assist. They can not be throttle only. There's nothing confusing about that at all 🤣. Except that people think throttle driven electric motorcycles with fake or superfluous pedals are Class 3.

Looking on the internet, you can find all kinds of misinformation on this.

 

[Steve Vai]

Agreed. But the e-bike advocate people are currently pushing to get the e-bikes they ride banned because even they don't know WTF they're talking about 😂

 

[Patrick]

Yes, true, but the last bolded bullet in the definition you posted is incorrect. Class 3 are not necessarily Pedal assist + Throttle. They might be pedal assist only (no throttle) but they must be pedal assist. They can not be throttle only. There's nothing confusing about that at all 🤣. Except that people think throttle driven electric motorcycles with fake or superfluous pedals are Class 3.

Looking on the internet, you can find all kinds of misinformation on this.

I think the whole point of the post was it is idiotic.....

like the consistency between 2&3....

 

[SAM]

I think the whole point of the post was it is idiotic.....

like the consistency between 2&3....

Yes, agree, idiotic, especially that Class 3 might or might not have a throttle.