Michaux Maximus

Panhead

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Is anyone else heading out to the Maximus on the 29th? Planning to leave Sat afternoon and crash out there at some roadside flophouse. Anybody else wants to jump in I have room for 4 bikes and riders.
Real mountain bike race. I know the participation from the area will be low due to some one gear gathering up north.
 
You know too well how much I want to do this one. But that would mean 3 endurance races in as many weeks, so I'm gonna have to save myself for Iron Hill and French Creek. Maximus is awesome! Very high pucker factor....steep rocky drops, big climbs, countless rock gardens etc...everything you love (or hate) about Michaux. You'll have a blast. I'm going to SSAP to hurl mud at Foco as he's racing.
 
No doubt, Gord. You've got your eye on something bigger. Make sure Rog has at least a biscotti for breakfast and the trophy will sit on the VTC/BTR mantle.
Mmmmeeeeeehhhhhh
 
No doubt, Gord. You've got your eye on something bigger. Make sure Rog has at least a biscotti for breakfast and the trophy will sit on the VTC/BTR mantle.
Mmmmeeeeeehhhhhh
Like maybe, oh I dunno...a danish?
I'll be getting my fill of Michaux this weekend. The 50 miler is really only 42, but still has 6k' of climbing. I hope I can shake this cold in time.
 
Michaux is worth the trip. It's actually a massive forest with lots of different terrain. There are three races in the Michaux Endurance Series -- Maximus, Curse of Dark Hollow and Terror at Teaberry -- and all three courses are different (all three in different areas of the forest.) Personally, I've always liked Dark Hollow the most. But if you want to check out Michaux, you can hit up any of those three ... or come on out this weekend for the Michaux MASS enduro!
 
How does Michaux compare to Ringwood or Wayway? Are you guys just being dramatic or is it really worth the trip?

Jeff, Michaux is a ton of fun with a lot of rocks/boulders etc. Tech factor is high but mostly ridable, some sick drops as mentioned above. The singletrack goes on for miles and links with fireroad climbs and goatpath climbs.

Zack and kuhndog always put on great race and venue. Spent st Pattys weekend riding with Zack on the trails in Michaux and went out this past weekend to race at their Marysville relay on Kuhndogs inlaws farm. Man was that fun.

Highly recommend any trail time that you can get out there, race or not.

Brian
 
How does Michaux compare to Ringwood or Wayway? Are you guys just being dramatic or is it really worth the trip?

Michaux is a bit more technical than almost anything in Wayway or Ringwood. If you like the Yellow trail in Ramapo/Skyline...that's pretty close to what most of Michaux is like; super rocky singletrack that you can ride if you're good, and then some features that you need to walk unless you're superman (or graveyardman) The are big climbs that gain a thousand feet or more, and there are sections of fireroad, sometimes several miles worth, that connect the different ST together. They are widely and rightly considered the toughest races in the East. Yeah...it's worth the trip.
 
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Michaux is a bit more technical than almost anything in Wayway or Ringwood. If you like the Yellow trail in Ramapo/Skyline...that's pretty close to what most of Michaux is like; super rocky singletrack that you can ride if you're good, and then some features that you need to walk unless you're superman (or graveyardman) The are big climbs that gain a thousand feet or more, and there are sections of fireroad, sometimes several miles worth, that connect the different ST together. They are widely and rightly considered the toughest races in the East. Yeah...it's worth the trip.

It's funny, but I've never thought of Michaux as more technical than a lot of places. I mean -- yeah, it's one of the toughest places to race but that's more because it's just so f*cking relentless start to finish. You are always either riding rocks, climbing steep hills, or descending technical terrain. There really isn't a moment's respite. But when I think of the most technical courses, for some reason I never think of Michaux. I think it's the difference between being worn down vs obliterated. Michaux always wears me down. Places like Allamuchy and French Creek obliterate me. (I reserve the right to change this opinion after this weekend, though, because I'll be running a rigid fork at Michaux for the first time in the 50 miler at the Michaux Trail Cup.) By the time I finish a Michaux race, I almost always just want to put the bike away and rest for about a week. Those others may hurt like hell from start to finish, but I'll go out and ride again the next day after racing at those venues.

Quick story that shows what Michaux races are all about: Michaux was the first place I experienced total failure for a carbon frame years ago. The frame itself didn't crack -- the epoxy holding the bottom bracket housing broke, so my whole bottom bracket was sliding out. But until I figured this out, I thought I was just having shifting problems (which I was -- when the front half of your drivetrain is moving laterally, it tends to screw up your shifting!) So, instead of bailing at the sport/beginner split off, I kept going and spent 20 miles doing pedal-pedal-pedal-kick drivetrain into place-pedal-pedal-pedal-kick drivetrain into place-pedal-pedal-pedal, etc. I actually got into a rhthym with it after a while, but the effort of just moving forward was wearing on me. By the time I got to the last powerline climb, I was so burnt out I remember looking up at this massively steep climb and saying (out loud), "Oh, come on! Really? What the hell?" And then I just hear this exhausted, hollow voice from behind me say, "Welcome to Michaux." And I've raced there a bunch of times since then and every time I get to the last few miles and they're just as hard or harder than all the ones that came before them, that guy's voice plays in my head.

THAT's what racing at Michaux is all about.

So, yeah, I agree: worth the trip!
 
thanks for the descriptions. Much better than the races website.

I'm already registered for SSAP but I've ridden Stewart a few times and I'm already planning on at least 100 miles of racing there over the next few months. I'll give this event some consideration.

Brian, if I go, you are welcome to jump in my car.

Thanks-
 
Welcome to Michaux ...

So I was out there today for the Michaux Trail Cup ... it did NOT go well. The race was 42 miles - a 20 mile lap and than a different 22 mile lap. I knew it was going to be tough running a rigid SS on a course as tough as Michaux, but it turns out that wasn't the bad part. I mean, miles-long climbs and (no sh*t) 45-degree descents through nothing but rock fields - yeah, the course was brutal. But I actually felt okay on that stuff. What did me in was that I did 51 miles in a 42 mile race. I had a good first lap -- rolled through he start finish area in just under 2 hours, But on the second lap (the lap Zach the race organizer called "the tougher lap") I missed turns three times, and the last one put me in the middle of the forest, 7 miles off course with no idea which direction would take me back. In a forest as big as Michaux, getting lost off course is scary. It took me a long time to find my way back to the start finish area, and I dehydrated and cramped really, really bad in that time.

Tough day.

Welcome to Michaux.
 
So I was out there today for the Michaux Trail Cup ... it did NOT go well. The race was 42 miles - a 20 mile lap and than a different 22 mile lap. I knew it was going to be tough running a rigid SS on a course as tough as Michaux, but it turns out that wasn't the bad part. I mean, miles-long climbs and (no sh*t) 45-degree descents through nothing but rock fields - yeah, the course was brutal. But I actually felt okay on that stuff. What did me in was that I did 51 miles in a 42 mile race. I had a good first lap -- rolled through he start finish area in just under 2 hours, But on the second lap (the lap Zach the race organizer called "the tougher lap") I missed turns three times, and the last one put me in the middle of the forest, 7 miles off course with no idea which direction would take me back. In a forest as big as Michaux, getting lost off course is scary. It took me a long time to find my way back to the start finish area, and I dehydrated and cramped really, really bad in that time.

Tough day.

Welcome to Michaux.

You had some bad luck and I can't imagine how frustrated you must have been. At least SSAP is coming up soon and you will have a much better time!

I measured 18.5 miles on the first lap and 27 on the 2nd lap. I also veered off course within the first hour of lap 2, but I could have added more than 3 miles. According to their stats I did an additional 5 miles - I don't think so. Nice day to be in the woods otherwise.
 
Dark Hollow

Hey panhead..

I cant make it to the maximus, but whats your thoughts on the Dark Hollow on July 22nd.. Id be in for that race

Joe
 
Hey panhead..

I cant make it to the maximus, but whats your thoughts on the Dark Hollow on July 22nd.. Id be in for that race

Joe

Do it. I'll be there for that one and also Teabury. I might jump in on the Hampshire Hundred too.

I'm also having some pretty knowledgeable birds telling me to put a fork on, not to rigid friendly there.
 
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