Tymor Wrap-Up Thread

Coog31 said:
Congrats to all those who raced and braved the slick roots & rocks!!

Right now the CAT3 gallery is done!! CAT2 will upload overnight, I'm off to bed!!! The link will direct you to my main H2H Race gallery, so you'll find all the categories & races in the same place.

Remember, all you have to do is put your bib number into the search box at the upper right of the gallery page. All images should be available for hi-res downloads. Email me if you have any special requests!! Thanks & enjoy!!
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Cat 1???
 
cat3 2 lap i fell where tyler fell but i fell really bad and hit my face and still got first and i fell at wawanda bye the pourt a john and got 1 two :popcorn: i feel like its a thing now if i dont fall at the finsh i wont get frist
 
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I'm glad my strategy of trying to stay close to Norm paid off in both the startline pic and the racing shot... 😉
 
My race report is up on the DeathRow Velo forum here:

http://www.deathrowvelo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=64&sid=cc7332563ecf661d876f4651f5fbc25f

You just gotta scroll to the third entry titled "Physics 101..."

Was anyone else bummed that SSers started so deep in the field? I was on Freddie's heels through half of the first bit of singletrack until we caught up to some slower geared riders. I had trouble passing them and got passed by some other SSers. Once I got stuck behind them, I was never able to close the gap. It was kinda frustrating, but I still had an absolute blast out there. I love mud. And I love :popcorn:
 
The SSers got a taste of what the rest of the field has to deal with every race. Get comfortable with passing. I think they should shake it up every race. Have a different class start each race to give that class a break. Remember, you guys choose to race with 1 gear. I have no choice about my age.
 
IROnick said:
Was anyone else bummed that SSers started so deep in the field?
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Sweet write-up son!!

And not to beat a dead horse BUT, now maybe some of you single-speeders know how frustrating it can be to go through you guys😉

-Jim.
 
I do think they should shake it up each race. 40-44 always get f'd in this respect.

Each pass takes a little bit out of you, and you get knocked out of your zone a bit each time. I have no idea what it would be like to simply ride and not have to pass.

But that's racing, and I don't have a problem with this whatsoever.

I race against peeps in my bracket, and they all have the same issue. Simply that need to look on this issue with some perspective.
 
One other conclusion I came to between sunday and my short recovery ride yesterday.... Shorts suck and bibs rule. Wow my arse was hurting yesterday in my usual shorts. :cry:
 
Seems to be a lot of talk about traffic and passing.:popcorn: That is part of racing for sure, and every class has a faster front end and a slower back end. No way to get around it. Long stretches of single-track can surely raise some frustration levels during a race. It is the love/hate relationship we racers have with single-track. Some courses just naturally spread racers out better than others. Either way, you learn to deal with it, even work it to your advantage.

"Remember, you guys choose to race with 1 gear. I have no choice about my age." .......You can race down in age or upgrade to Cat 1.😀
 
kush said:
I have no idea what it would be like to simply ride and not have to pass.
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Here's something to think about. Even though everyone complains about the start, why does everyone have a faster first lap than 2nd? Maybe those little passes actually help you go faster than you would? :hmmm:

pixychick said:
You can race down in age or upgrade to Cat 1.😀
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Down in age?

I haven't qualified for cat 1 yet. As soon as I do, I'm there :getsome:
 
Norm said:
Here's something to think about. Even though everyone complains about the start, why does everyone have a faster first lap than 2nd? Maybe those little passes actually help you go faster than you would? :hmmm:
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Again, not complaining about this, its all part of the deal.

I'm actually not happy with my start, I went out too fast at the start chasing my friendly nemesis from last 3 races of last year's series Pablo Paribio. I wound up killing him by 5 minutes, but at the cost of being burnt before the first hill climb. I think I could've done better going with a negative split as you suggested before, maybe having a shot at the #2 spot. Someth to work on next time.
 
kush said:
I'm actually not happy with my start, I went out too fast at the start chasing my friendly nemesis from last 3 races of last year's series Pablo Paribio. I wound up killing him by 5 minutes, but at the cost of being burnt before the first hill climb. I think I could've done better going with a negative split as you suggested before, maybe having a shot at the #2 spot. Someth to work on next time.
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I know the guy who came in #2. He and I raced in the same class last year. You've got to race smart to beat him. He's not the strongest guy out there but he's a very smart racer and often makes up a lot of ground in the second lap.

The guy who won both races should be in expert soon. He's smoking fast this year.
 
pixychick said:
Seems to be a lot of talk about traffic and passing.:popcorn: That is part of racing for sure, and every class has a faster front end and a slower back end. No way to get around it. Long stretches of single-track can surely raise some frustration levels during a race. It is the love/hate relationship we racers have with single-track. Some courses just naturally spread racers out better than others. Either way, you learn to deal with it, even work it to your advantage.

"Remember, you guys choose to race with 1 gear. I have no choice about my age." .......You can race down in age or upgrade to Cat 1.😀
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My first time at Tymor. Great race. Very challenging with all the climbing combined with the harsh and slippery conditions. I had a blast, in that wonderful, masochistic sort of way.
But, while we're on the subject of passing and etiquette, lets all take a moment to remember what the rules actually are.
From the H2H series rules:

"Racers passing another racer must yell an appropriate term such as "Passing on your left" or "Track left." "Get out of my way" is not an appropriate term. A racer being passed must yield at the first reasonable opportunity, but does not need to endanger themselves.
A racer being passed may not intentionally "block" the racer coming up from behind. This is unsportsmanlike behavior."

Here's why I'm bothering to bring this up: On my second lap, in the narrow, off camber singletrack, (right after the big decent, before the mudpit / field section in the last mile of the course; to be specific). A rider in my class /age group came up behind me, and without saying a word, proceeds to make contact with my rear wheel not once, not twice, but four times in about a 1/4 mile. When I finally slid out and dabbed on a slippery root, he yells "AAAAWWWW COME ON!!!" Now I'm pissed. My knee jerk reply was "Don't give me that AAAAWWWW COME ON!!! Shi*t...Call you pass!!! I pulled over and let him by.
Now, I must apologize for my own outburst, but passing like that is uncool and unsportsmanlike, not to mention dangerous. If he had asked me to pass I would have pulled to the side at the first safe chance. At that point, we were only about a hundred yards from the open field.
I've been racing long enough to know that sometimes in the heat of competition, sketchy passes sometimes happen: I've been guilty of it myself. But let's please keep in mind that most of us are out there to have fun...sure, we want to do well, but were not racing for Olympic gold. So please be respectful, let faster racers pass when it's safe to do so, and call your passes...and that's exactly what I did when I passed this guy back on my third lap. I even said Thank you! 🙂
 
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sportsman ship

Had a great race. 3rd 4th 5th place was traded back and forth the whole second lap. Ptb66 pulled away in 3rd, at this time I was in 4th with an irish guy on my tail. I went high on this bench cut on the back side, just like I did on the first lap but this time I was tired-ish and my rear wheel slipped down. instead of being a D-bag and standing in the middle of the trail, getting back on my bike and blocking him, I let him go, I had to. After all he did pedal it and I did slip. Was almost able to close the gap but couldn't do anything about the super wet logs. He was fun to race he yelled at me on the climbs for being on a SS and smiled when I slipped hahaha. All in good fun
 
Norm said:
Down in age?
I haven't qualified for cat 1 yet. As soon as I do, I'm there :getsome:
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Yes, if you are 45 and want to race with the 35 year olds, it is allowed at most local races, but not National Championships.

To upgrade to Cat 1 all you need to do is complete a few Cat 2 races. There is no set race finsh qualification.
 
pixychick said:
To upgrade to Cat 1 all you need to do is complete a few Cat 2 races. There is no set race finsh qualification.
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They denied TJ the upgrade over the winter, oddly. I'm going to float in cat 2 for a few more races and make sure I actually belong here. Then hopefully it's a non-issue when I try to move up for the fall. I'd like to win a race but if I don't, I don't.
 
pixychick said:
To upgrade to Cat 1 all you need to do is complete a few Cat 2 races. There is no set race finsh qualification.
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From the rulebook:

1D6. Mountain Bike Upgrades
(a) Riders may advance as quickly as they wish up to
category 2. However, once a rider has upgraded, he or she
will not be permitted to downgrade to a less difficult category
without making a formal request to USA Cycling. The
upgrading of categories will be noted on the racing license by
USA Cycling. The USA Cycling Official at the event may record
the upgrade of a rider to Category 2. The official will then
contact the USA Cycling Regional Coordinator to record the
change. A rider may also contact USA Cycling by email, in
writing, or online to change categories.
(b) Category 3 racers must move to Category 2 after
placing in the top five in five races. Failure to do so may
result in license suspension.
(c) Category 2 riders may move up to Category 1 after two
top five finishes by presenting an upgrade request and a
resume to USA Cycling.
(d) Category 2 riders must advance to Category 1 after
placing in the top five in five races. Failure to do so may
result in license suspension.

For mandatory upgrading purposes, classes must consist of
the following competitors:

Senior-15
Master age 30-39- 15
Master age 40-49- 10
Master age 50+- 5

In those classes that require a minimum of ten competitors,
the top three in the class are counted for upgrading. In those
classes that require five, the top finisher will be counted for
upgrading. Upgrades will be based on a rider's placings in his
category over a calendar year.


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Bottom line- as a Cat 2 you need two top-5 finishes to upgrade to Cat 1. I'm pretty sure Norm has reached that threshold, though...
 
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