E-bikes are a thing

Ebikes??

  • I have never ridden one

    Votes: 100 41.3%

  • I have ridden one for over an hour on a trail and I’ll never buy one

    Votes: 9 3.7%

  • I have ridden one in a trail for over an hr and I am considering one

    Votes: 19 7.9%

  • I’ll never give up my analog bike but I’ll still get an ebike

    Votes: 35 14.5%

  • Did he just say analog bike?

    Votes: 35 14.5%

  • My knees are failing and an ebike in inevitable

    Votes: 17 7.0%

  • My next bike will certainly be an ebike.

    Votes: 19 7.9%

  • I’ll never own an ebike, even when I’m 90

    Votes: 25 10.3%

  • Ebikes cause more trail damage than analog bikes

    Votes: 8 3.3%

  • Ebikes have no more trail impact than a traditional bike.

    Votes: 63 26.0%

  • I hate anyone on an ebike

    Votes: 7 2.9%

  • Anyone on a bike is a friend of mine, ebike or not

    Votes: 91 37.6%

  • I’ve been seeing ebikes in the woods regularly

    Votes: 52 21.5%

  • I’ve never seen an ebike on the trail

    Votes: 15 6.2%

  • It's called an Acoustic bike

    Votes: 14 5.8%

  • “I may consider one after my body is all used up and broken"

    Votes: 64 26.4%

  • I already own an off-road Ebike

    Votes: 34 14.0%

  • I have no interest in an e-bike

    Votes: 13 5.4%

  • Arguing against ebikes is kerfuffle

    Votes: 14 5.8%

  • I like Matty no matter what he rides

    Votes: 17 7.0%
  • Total voters
    242
I tried getting insurance for my e-bike and this is what I got.
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Is e-bike insurance available in New Jersey?
  • The proposal has a bigger problem – two insurance industry representatives said there is no insurance available in New Jersey for e-bikes and that it would take years to develop an insurance program and get it through the state Division of Banking and Insurance regulatory process.
 
Where are these ebikes i can register?

Oh and how about enforcing ebike laws by going after the guardians of the offender. You buy johnny a 4k surron so he can do wheelies around town they fine the parents, hey maybe i should play ball with him instead of telling him ride around i'm too busy.
 
It is criminally irresponsible for manufacturers to produce a class 1 eBike that can also be run as a class 3. It makes it impossible for law enforcement to differentiate between the two obviously very different vehicles. The response by government in those cases will almost always be to ban them all. The manufacturers will build what they are paid to produce, I can’t fault them … but the big players at the bike companies continue to demonstrate just how short sighted they really are while everyone downstream suffers.
 
Juggernaut said:
It is criminally irresponsible for manufacturers to produce a class 1 eBike that can also be run as a class 3. It makes it impossible for law enforcement to differentiate between the two obviously very different vehicles. The response by government in those cases will almost always be to ban them all. The manufacturers will build what they are paid to produce, I can’t fault them … but the big players at the bike companies continue to demonstrate just how short sighted they really are while everyone downstream suffers.
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The issue is specifically with Class 2 bikes. Class 3 is like a Vado or Creo. Class 2 is a Surron or a Super74. Class 1 is a Levo or regular EMTB. It's not even the Manufacturers that are the problem, the local advocacy groups are also pro Class 2 and go to every meeting they can lobbying for them. Same folks that pushed for the 4-foot passing law also want you to get run down by a dirtbike on the sidewalk.
 
Surron isn't a class 3, it's not even in a class it's an electric dirtbike unless you meant something else. I can't believe some bike shops even work on them for liability sake just because they could be thought of as a moto shop now but money is money.
 
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Suron is not an ebike. It is an electric motorcycle. They can reach speeds of 50 mph and more (75 mph?). Class 4 should be considered a motor vehicle. These should not be lumped in with the Class 1 (or 2) ebikes ridden on trails.

For class 1, 2, or 3 ebikes, we are talking about bikes that are limited to 20 mph (Class 1 & 2) or 28 mph (Class 3).

Class 1 & 3 are pedal assist only (no throttle). Class 2 can have pedal assist and a throttle, but is limited to 20 mph.
 
SAM said:
Suron is not an ebike. It is an electric motorcycle. They can reach speeds of 50 mph and more (75 mph?). Class 4 should be considered a motor vehicle. These should not be lumped in with the Class 1 (or 2) ebikes ridden on trails.

For class 1, 2, or 3 ebikes, we are talking about bikes that are limited to 20 mph (Class 1 & 2) or 28 mph (Class 3).

Class 1 & 3 are pedal assist only (no throttle). Class 2 can have pedal assist and a throttle, but is limited to 20 mph.
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Should be, but are not. Also any throttle bike I’ve ever worked on does 30mph. Whatever sales pitch they throw out there is 100% BS.

Although honestly the whole thing would open up a huge can of worms because probably 1 in 5 Levos are chipped. I catch them all the time…These are the Cromwell Bros…

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Steve Vai said:
Should be, but are not. Also any throttle bike I’ve ever worked on does 30mph. Whatever sales pitch they throw out there is 100% BS.

Although honestly the whole thing would open up a huge can of worms because probably 1 in 5 Levos are chipped. I catch them all the time…These are the Cromwell Bros…

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Cheaters gunna cheat? Already cheating, so why not? 🤣

Hopefully, whatever regulations/laws are passed will not have a negative effect on folks who just want to ride Class 1 ebikes on trails.
 
Steve Vai said:
Should be, but are not. Also any throttle bike I’ve ever worked on does 30mph. Whatever sales pitch they throw out there is 100% BS.

Although honestly the whole thing would open up a huge can of worms because probably 1 in 5 Levos are chipped. I catch them all the time…These are the Cromwell Bros…

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In all of history, there isn't a single thing with a motor that someone hasn't tried to sup up.

SAM said:
Cheaters gunna cheat? Already cheating, so why not? 🤣

Hopefully, whatever regulations/laws are passed will not have a negative effect on folks who just want to ride Class 1 ebikes on trails.
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We all know there is almost enforcement of any ebike related rules on trails considering there isn't even the man power to enforce anything in a park
 
Steve Vai said:
The issue is specifically with Class 2 bikes. Class 3 is like a Vado or Creo. Class 2 is a Surron or a Super74. Class 1 is a Levo or regular EMTB. It's not even the Manufacturers that are the problem, the local advocacy groups are also pro Class 2 and go to every meeting they can lobbying for them. Same folks that pushed for the 4-foot passing law also want you to get run down by a dirtbike on the sidewalk.
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The DJI platform can go from class 1 to class 3 on the fly. That’s unacceptable on a mountain bike. Class 3 on a road bike, I have no issue with.
 
They do make an alloy one with mechanical apex. I just built one. It's surprisingly nice for a peasant bike.
 
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