Nassau Trails - partial closure

I agree with the notion that we should try to seek the specific citing in the land use deed that supposedly prevents biking as a passive form of recreation. Challenge the letter of the law.
The deed restriction clearly prohibits mountain bikes somehow. I think motorbikes was the intention but the deed itself is clear. There needs to be a change of use agreement on the original deed. My understanding was that the change of used was agreed to pending the execution of the remediation plan. As I indicated, I have not been asked to be part of the solution or decision, apart from being invited to a walk-through last Thursday at 1 PM. Hopefully the powers that be will continue to pursue a change of use agreement.
 
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Are they planning on some sort of official communication? (This thread should not be that official communication). If people continue to ride there, I hope they don’t point here and say “they were warned”. I don’t see anything on the Nassau Facebook page.
I will no longer be the communication tool for the town. They can come up with their own communication plan.
 
I agree with the notion that we should try to seek the specific citing in the land use deed that supposedly prevents biking as a passive form of recreation. Challenge the letter of the law.

'the people' can talk for/against all they want. This moves into legal territory, be it challenging or changing the deed language. That mean lawyers, which means money. The town then has to engage a lawyer, which forces them to spend money.

To what end?

A now contentious relationship where if we want to communicate it has to go through legal first?

I don't think the town is acting in bad faith. They must make a conservative decision favouring their residents, not visitors. I'll still go to HRB and Circa.

"We" worked through some complicated issues over at the flow trails with the ash trees. Upset residents, mis-info, rumors, and accusations. It took time to resolve, through an honest exchange of concerns and proposals, leading to acceptable solutions.

We can continue communicating and hope for a favorable outcome
 
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First Highrail closing and now this... I could cry.
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This moves into legal territory, be it challenging or changing the deed language
I think this is already happening. I've got a friend on the High Bridge Recreation Committee who clued me in on this a while back. There's a land-use attorney who was just sworn in on the rec committee too. I got in touch with her and offered up environmental services, if required. She told me she hasn't seen anything on paper from NJDEP compelling the closure.
 
Are they planning on some sort of official communication? (This thread should not be that official communication). If people continue to ride there, I hope they don’t point here and say “they were warned”. I don’t see anything on the Nassau Facebook page.

I don't think we want this and the current "soft" message may be by design. The deed requires the municipality to state the trails are closed. They have. If they chose not to enforce it, it might be to our benefit.

The trespassing statute requires that the offender "knowingly and purposely" disregard posted NO TRESPASSING signage or hop a fence or remain in a structure after it is closed. Right now there is plausable deniability. That's a good thing.

Unless the town passes a specific ordinance against MTBing at Nassau or until you have a cop ID you and make a record that you have been notified and warned of the trespassing, you're good. And maybe the borough attorney advised the town to leave it vague. Lest they have a shitshow on their hands.

I'm not an attorney but I did pass by a Motel 6 last night. LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE. Don't show up at the council meeting and demand a response. You'll force their hand. Slow play this.
 
Slow play this.

Yes, this, please. It is entirely possible this issue is not totally resolved, and there may be more action in some manner in the future. I don't know anything for sure, but can say with some certainty that if you show up with pitchforks at a council meeting you've never known about until 2 days before demanding anything, it probably won't work out for the best.
 
Speaking from a place of experience, I echo Carson's "let sleeping dogs lie" sentiment. It works for us in the not so friendly locations of the state.

Be extra courteous when you're out there, do TM when needed and don't raise any extra stink when there's no need to.
 

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