who has a mac?

Kirt

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We also have a Mac in the house. My wife has the laptop & there is no comparison to a pc. It's so much better in just about every way. Just do it Steve, buy 1.
 

J-Dro

Well-Known Member
I read a funny editorial in the NY Times yesterday comparing Obama to a Mac and Clinton to a PC.
 

jbogner

NYCMTB: President
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Do they have an iBook for my new 29er?

No, but here's a Nomad to match your iBook...

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MixMastaMM

Team Bulldog Rider
Oh by the way, NO VIRUSES FOR MACS. EVER. Reason enough right there.

I find that statement to be very brash and cocky. Its only a matter of time before there are viruses and spyware running rampant on Macs. When PCs first started becoming common place in homes and work places, you did not have the current worry of viruses or spyware. No one could have foreseen what the Internet and various networks of today would have opened up for others to exploit. As Macs get to be more of a common occurrence, there will be more attacks launched on them. Its a game of numbers, the greater the number, the more likely you are to find a way in.
 

jbogner

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As Macs get to be more of a common occurrence, there will be more attacks launched on them. Its a game of numbers, the greater the number, the more likely you are to find a way in.

With 4% market share, Apple's got a long way to go before Macs become viable targets for virus writers. Plus, with a base of BSD Unix, Mac OS X *is* actually more secure than Vista.

US Military public web servers run on Mac OS X for a reason... ;)
 

MixMastaMM

Team Bulldog Rider
With 4% market share, Apple's got a long way to go before Macs become viable targets for virus writers. Plus, with a base of BSD Unix, Mac OS X *is* actually more secure than Vista.

US Military public web servers run on Mac OS X for a reason... ;)

I am not doubting that it is more secure than Vista, that isn't saying much. I just hate when people feel like they are invincible because they are using a Mac. End of the day, I'll be riding a 29er SS with a Mac computing product after I'm 6 feet under.
 

dirty bert

Banned
Mac Here!

looking to possibly switch from a windows based system for the home computer. is mac really all that and more? basically for image and video editing. any reccos or pitfalls to avoid would be appreciated.

I have been using a Mac for 11+ yrs. I got 3 at home and use it in my profession (graphic artist). It's an easy puter to learn and as you can see there are many people on these boards that can help you along the way. I must say macs are more money than a PC but to me it's worth the price.
 
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DANSPANK

Guest
Mac and a 29er full squish here - modern man, at last! My Mac's for sale if interested - there's a post somewhere about it...
 

pinkshirtphotos

Active Member
im on a mac, still switching from pc. and by still switching i mean moving pictures and getting the programs i need. i have been on a mac since christmas and i love it.
 

MMuller

Well-Known Member
looking to buy a g4 dual 1.25 if anyone is selling. Use protools mix system and that's the highest it'll work with.
 

pinkshirtphotos

Active Member
i have a g4 imac i think its g4, it looks like a tv set. has osx tiger on it. also has photoshop and illustrator. ide get rid of it for $150.
 

pixychick

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If anyone has successfully worked with GPS and Mac and has any insight or interest in being a part of a volunteer mapping project for Ringwood areas, please let me know.

Thanks
Ellen
 

tonyride

Don't piss off the red guy
I'm on my third Apple computer (2nd Mac) and I've always been an Apple fan. In college I had an Apple IIc. Then years later I got an iMac. About 4 months ago I sold the iMac and got my current MacBook. I still have PC based computers but I do all my media editing on the Mac and I love it. My brother has converted and just got a MacBook himself.
 

mergs

Spokompton's Finest
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Macs are very good. No doubt about it.

However since this thread has been heavily dominated by the Mac crowd, I'll stand up as the contrarian

First, vulnerabilities exist, and the platform gets more popular they will increase:

Gargantuan OS X Update Fixes Almost 100 Security Flaws
Severity: High
18 March, 2008
Summary:

* These vulnerabilities affect: OS X 10.4.x (Tiger) and OS X 10.5.x (Leopard), both client and server versions
* How an attacker exploits them: Multiple vectors of attack, including enticing one of your users into visiting a URL or web site
* Impact: Various results; in the worst case, attacker executes code on your user's computer, potentially gaining complete of your user's computer
* What to do: OS X administrators should download, test and install Security Update 2008-002

Exposure:

Today, Apple released a security update <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307562> fixing over 95 (number based on CVE-ID <http://cve.mitre.org/> s) security issues in software packages that ship as part of OS X, including Apache, Preview, and Help Viewer. Some of these vulnerabilities allow attackers to execute any code they choose on your OS X machines, so we rate this update Critical. Apply it as soon as you can. Three of the vulnerabilities fixed include:

* Multiple integer overflow vulnerabilities in AppKit. AppKit is a OS X framework that helps developers implement graphical, event-driven user interfaces. According to Apple, Appkit suffers from integer overflow vulnerabilities <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_overflow> involving the way it parses something called a "serialized property list." By luring one of your users to a maliciously crafted web site, an attacker could exploit these flaws to execute code on your user's computer, with that user's privileges. The attacker could then leverage a separate vulnerability in AppKit -- also described in Apple's alert -- to gain system privilege, thus giving the attacker complete control of that user's Mac.

* Foundation race condition vulnerability. Foundation is an OS X component that helps Safari handle web pages and URL <http://www.watchguard.com/glossary/u.asp#URL> s. According to Apple, Foundation suffers from a complicated race condition vulnerability <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition> . If an attacker can entice one of your users into visiting a malicious web site, he could exploit this vulnerability to execute code on the user's computer, with that user's privileges. Furthermore, the attacker could then leverage other vulnerabilities described in Apple's alert to elevate privileges <http://www.watchguard.com/glossary/e.asp#elevation> and gain complete control of your user's computer.

* Image Raw buffer overflow vulnerability. Image Raw is a component that allows OS X to handle the various RAW image formats <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format> that some digital cameras support. Image Raw suffers from a buffer overflow vulnerability <http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/b/buffer_overflow.html> involving the way it handles specially malformed Adobe Digital Negative (DNG) image files. By enticing one of your users into viewing a malicious image, an attacker can exploit this flaw to execute code on that user's computer. By default, the attacker would only execute code with that user's privileges. However, he could then leverage another vulnerability -- also described in Apple's alert -- to gain complete control of your user's computer.

Apple's alert includes many, many more flaws, including other code execution flaws in addition to those described above. The remaining vulnerabilities also include Denial of Service (DoS) <http://www.watchguard.com/glossary/d.asp#DoS> flaws, elevation of privilege <http://www.watchguard.com/glossary/e.asp#elevation_of_privilege> flaws, and information disclosure vulnerabilities, plus others. Components patched by this security update include:

AFP Client

AFP Server

Apache

AppKit

Application Firewall

CFNetwork

ClamAV

CoreFoundation

Core Services

CUPS

curl

Emacs

file

Foundation

Help Viewer

Image Raw

Kerberos

libc

mDNSResponder

notifyd

OpenSSH

pax archive utility

PHP

Podcast Producer

Preview

Printing

System Configuration

UDF

Wiki Server

X11

Refer to Apple's alert <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307562> for more details.

This is a huge update fixing many security vulnerabilities, some of which pose a critical security risk. If you manage OS X machines, we highly recommend you apply this update right away.


Solution Path:


Apple has released OS X Security Update 2008-002 to fix all these security issues. OS X administrators should download, test, and deploy Security Update 2008-002 as soon as they can.

* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 (PPC) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18157&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpd2008-002PPC.dmg>
* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 (Universal) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18158&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpd2008-002Univ.dmg>
* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 (Leopard) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18159&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpd2008-002.dmg>
* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 Server (PPC) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18161&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpdSrvr2008-002PPC.dmg>
* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 Server (Universal) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18165&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpdSrvr2008-002Univ.dmg>
* Security Update 2008-002 v1.0 Server (Leopard) <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty2.pl/product=18160&cat=1&platform=osx&method=sa/SecUpdSrvr2008-002.dmg>

Note: If you have trouble figuring out which of these patches corresponds to your version of OS X, we recommend you let OS X's Software Update utility pick the correct update for you automatically.


For All Users:


These flaws support diverse exploitation methods. Some of the exploits are local, meaning that your perimeter firewall never encounters the attack (unless you use firewalls internally between departments). Installing these updates, therefore, is the most secure course of action.


Status:


Apple released updates to fix these issues.


References:


* Apple's March OS X Advisory <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307562>

This alert was researched and written by Corey Nachreiner, CISSP.

So Macs are not invulnerable from viruses or exploits, that;s a myth. They are less exploited than Windows for sure tho.

That said, Vista sucks, and if MS comes out with another pos OS like vista next time around I may switch too. I almost bought and iMac but they are about 100% more expensive than a good IMB clone notebook.

I'd say the big reason that I don't use Macs is because I write web software for companies that do not run Macs, but run Pcs. Business apps simply are not easy to find on the Mac. I also write in .NET and that Development UI is a Windows only.

I will say that Macs are prettier too. ;)

p.s. Ken aren't you a Mac owner now :D
 

crash_in_nj

New Member
Linux, it what all the cool kids are using:p I have Slackware 11 running at home. At least, it was running until the pos laptop it was on died.
 
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