Washington Valley trail closures-THIS COULD BE BAD!!!
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Jeff_STI
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Signed and shared to all my friends on facebook...Thanks.
GTCHAMPION1
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They should show more on weekends, it's when you see more out of state vehicles, plus there been a couple of times I end up picking up people's garbage at Newman's parking lot, how hard is it to spot the garbage can and the recycle bin at Newman's? ¿😐?
Jeff_STI
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I been riding at Chimney rock for the past 3 years straight, and got ticketed for being riding after 8 pm. While others do illegal stuff there and get to walk away with an just "don't do it again and leave the park".
Well the park closes at dusk right? You were at fault technically, you were not supposed to be there. The rules apply to everyone including you. No sympathy here
Yes but not now because the ding dongs shitting and pissing in the woods put the attention on everybody. Follow the rules and dont play the victim when ya break them and get a ticket. I ride at night there too but take full responsibility if i get caught and realize i may get a ticket.
Police do not want to be there, expect no leeway until this blows over a bit. I told that to 2 very nice high school girls that were going swimming today. They actually believed me, thanked me and left.
I also picked up a bunch of garbage today and yeah I bitched with every piece I picked up, especially in the lot with the can right F’ing there.
I also picked up a bunch of garbage today and yeah I bitched with every piece I picked up, especially in the lot with the can right F’ing there.
mwlikesbikes
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Night riding is illegal there as well, always follow fight club rules if you must. If one were to think of night riding they would be wise to not park at Newmans, ballfield, or Gilbride lots.
kidzach
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Well , yeah. Somebody drowned . They are not playing. Sorry you got a ticket. But they are just doing their job. Be happy we did not lose our privilege to ride there. Night riding is illegal everywhere. Fight Club
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I'll stick my $.02 in here.
If they ticket the out-of-towners, and no locals, that would seem like targeting.
Expect blanket enforcement of the rules - they really have no choice.
Hopefully "only" $25 -
put those reflectors back on the bike, and make sure you have a bell?
(bell is not a horrible idea at CR right now)
On the drowning - people drown all the time. It isn't like the person jumped off something and hit their head at the local pool club.
He either had a medical emergency, or didn't realize swimming 100 yards was hard.
Why can't it just be the person drown, swimming where they shouldn't?
Seems like it is on the person.
Perhaps cold, but I'm responsible for me, and the decisions I make and risks I take.
Completely different from someone else f-ng something up which injures others making good decisions.
Look at the statement by SC Parks - they need to ensure the safety of all users.
That drives their decision process. It is a thing in NJ -
There is no railing around the grand canyon. people fall off the edge every year......
If they ticket the out-of-towners, and no locals, that would seem like targeting.
Expect blanket enforcement of the rules - they really have no choice.
Hopefully "only" $25 -
put those reflectors back on the bike, and make sure you have a bell?
(bell is not a horrible idea at CR right now)
On the drowning - people drown all the time. It isn't like the person jumped off something and hit their head at the local pool club.
He either had a medical emergency, or didn't realize swimming 100 yards was hard.
Why can't it just be the person drown, swimming where they shouldn't?
Seems like it is on the person.
Perhaps cold, but I'm responsible for me, and the decisions I make and risks I take.
Completely different from someone else f-ng something up which injures others making good decisions.
Look at the statement by SC Parks - they need to ensure the safety of all users.
That drives their decision process. It is a thing in NJ -
There is no railing around the grand canyon. people fall off the edge every year......
We don't have personal accountability in NJ for some reason.
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ekuhn
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I have to agree with @Patrick - I've watched this thread develop and kind of waited to post my opinion..
My fire department was there to aid in recovery of the victim. Its never a fun process when you're heading into the water or standing on shore and family/friends behind you. I've been on too many of these incidents to know the heart break for the families. You don't want to see anyone lose their life prematurely.
Personal accountability/responsibility is the key factor. You drive drunk and hurt someone and yourself, its your fault, not the car or the roadways fault. You go past a sign or a fence to do some thing you shouldn't be doing, then you deserve the consequences. Don't go in the deep end if you can't swim, even more so if you're under the influence.
From a MTB'r stand point, just police yourselves and keep a positive image of what we do in the park to make it better for everyone.
My fire department was there to aid in recovery of the victim. Its never a fun process when you're heading into the water or standing on shore and family/friends behind you. I've been on too many of these incidents to know the heart break for the families. You don't want to see anyone lose their life prematurely.
Personal accountability/responsibility is the key factor. You drive drunk and hurt someone and yourself, its your fault, not the car or the roadways fault. You go past a sign or a fence to do some thing you shouldn't be doing, then you deserve the consequences. Don't go in the deep end if you can't swim, even more so if you're under the influence.
From a MTB'r stand point, just police yourselves and keep a positive image of what we do in the park to make it better for everyone.
Paul H
Fearless OOS Poser
FTFY
I don't totally agree with that. We did the New England vacation thing, and in each of the 3 states we spent time in (Vermont, NH, Maine) there are areas you could hurt/kill yourself pretty easily. In the North Conway area there are plenty of accessible places you can walk right off a ledge and not know it until it's too late.
You might say to this, well you have to earn the climb up so you weed out most of the people there. Sure, but then there is a river crossing we went by daily with 100s of cars and people dragging coolers and kegs to take with them in their float down the river. I am sure people die on this river every year because they drink too much but there's really no police presence to stop it.
I think there are a lot of areas of the US where this is the case. Arizona, as mentioned above.
they take that "Live free or die" shit seriously.
Paul H
Fearless OOS Poser
Or.... they have not realized yet that your can sue for your own stupidity and become rich!
In all due time.
serviceguy
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I don't think that is the reason for excessive regulation, I believe it's more of an ideological approach to government and not necessarily linked to party affiliation.
Paul H
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Didn't realize my statement implied anything to do with party affiliation