good lord. I just rode tymor yesterday, and found exactly one real spot of mud. I can tell that there were people riding before it was dry though:hmmm:. there are places where the loop is a little hard to follow, and there are plenty of wrong turns available. that place will need some work. That being said it was a good challenging ride, with the well known brutal climbing. BTW, i got there at 4pm, pull in to the lot, and rode. we were the onlt two cars in the lot, and saw no one there the entire time.