FAIL. you go in anyway. this is norm we're talking about.
This Season's Gong Show
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FAIL. you go in anyway. this is norm we're talking about.
Right? He's trying to schedule a make-up date now. As if.
all i know is he better buy you sushi AND bring you flowers.
no $12 bodega bouquets allowed either.
It showed up in metres for me as well, but then I logged in with my garmin account and it changed it to my preference of being imperial.
No race yesterday for me.
Wife got sick, daughter's pink eye got worse, and I ended up watching her while the wife went to Medemerge yesterday morning. A bit after 11:00 she calls to tell me she's on her way. I text Jeremy who is at the race and he says the pros have 3 laps left. No chance I can make it. Blah. I run to the pharmacy for wife anyway, so it works out. Everyone is generally ok though.
Nat sleeps, Julia watches TV, and I go for a bike ride:
(Garmin Connect still buggy, no link for you)
Did like 1:50 on the road, 18 mph average, 265 watts. Pretty mundane. Felt great for like half an hour then dropped to crap.
I think the heat has residual effects. And I think when you push 1 button you may inadvertently un-push another one. In any event, I ordered some of those capsules that Woody suggested. I'm a little concerned they don't have enough sodium for me but I'll give them a shot. After the ride yesterday it was clear that I'm missing something nutritionally. The repeated depletion of electrolytes may be adding up over time.
Today just a road ride in the rain with some subset of people, at least Kirt, maybe Rob, maybe Jeremy, and probably not Fred. Actually it's not raining right now, but it's messy out. Then this afternoon I'm going to drop the bike off to Jim. I think it needs a little attention from someone who is not me.
Wife got sick, daughter's pink eye got worse, and I ended up watching her while the wife went to Medemerge yesterday morning. A bit after 11:00 she calls to tell me she's on her way. I text Jeremy who is at the race and he says the pros have 3 laps left. No chance I can make it. Blah. I run to the pharmacy for wife anyway, so it works out. Everyone is generally ok though.
Nat sleeps, Julia watches TV, and I go for a bike ride:
(Garmin Connect still buggy, no link for you)
Did like 1:50 on the road, 18 mph average, 265 watts. Pretty mundane. Felt great for like half an hour then dropped to crap.
I think the heat has residual effects. And I think when you push 1 button you may inadvertently un-push another one. In any event, I ordered some of those capsules that Woody suggested. I'm a little concerned they don't have enough sodium for me but I'll give them a shot. After the ride yesterday it was clear that I'm missing something nutritionally. The repeated depletion of electrolytes may be adding up over time.
Today just a road ride in the rain with some subset of people, at least Kirt, maybe Rob, maybe Jeremy, and probably not Fred. Actually it's not raining right now, but it's messy out. Then this afternoon I'm going to drop the bike off to Jim. I think it needs a little attention from someone who is not me.
The Kalmyk
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Pink eye ran through our house this winter... My wife got it last and apparently her symptoms got worst but really she was allergic to the drops she was prescribed... A switch of drops and she was on the mends
Norm, Try a chamomile eyewash for Julia. Our pediatrician had recommended it for my newborn son after 3 months of treating an eye infection that just wouldn't go away. Since then, I've used it for myself and everyone from my baby to my 96 yr old grandmother-in-law. If you're unsure, call an opthamologist or your pediatrician or just try some in your own eye first. If you do, you will notice a marked difference within a few hours, guaranteed.
Make sure to buy a brand you trust(I like stash for their sealed envelopes) and make sure it's 100% chamomile(though astringent, a lemon zest would not be fun in this instance) and organic. Steep the tea in a few ounces of boiled water and let it cool to lukewarm. You can drip some into her eye from a napkin. Or, since she will probably not sit still, just take the drippy teabag and hold it against her eye socket for a minute or two. There are no side effects if you use too much and when the eye is clear you stop using it. Simple.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4613502_chamomile-tea-eye-wash.html
http://www.learningherbs.com/pink_eye_remedy.html
Make sure to buy a brand you trust(I like stash for their sealed envelopes) and make sure it's 100% chamomile(though astringent, a lemon zest would not be fun in this instance) and organic. Steep the tea in a few ounces of boiled water and let it cool to lukewarm. You can drip some into her eye from a napkin. Or, since she will probably not sit still, just take the drippy teabag and hold it against her eye socket for a minute or two. There are no side effects if you use too much and when the eye is clear you stop using it. Simple.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4613502_chamomile-tea-eye-wash.html
http://www.learningherbs.com/pink_eye_remedy.html
calling me out?
Hello Norm, funny thing happened at the 909 race today! After talking with a friend it was brought to my attention that as part of your DH40 recap you mentioned my name and stated in so many words that you should not be getting beat by me?
Just curious why out the 23 people that beat you at the DH40 you felt the need to point me out? After reading it I realized that I dont even think I ever even raced with you in a MTB race? So what makes you think you "you should be beating me" ?
Anyway I personally dont think stating that "you should be beating Me" is really necceasry in your "all important" race blog! Just one mans opinion:hmmm:
See you at the races 😉
Hello Norm, funny thing happened at the 909 race today! After talking with a friend it was brought to my attention that as part of your DH40 recap you mentioned my name and stated in so many words that you should not be getting beat by me?
Just curious why out the 23 people that beat you at the DH40 you felt the need to point me out? After reading it I realized that I dont even think I ever even raced with you in a MTB race? So what makes you think you "you should be beating me" ?
Anyway I personally dont think stating that "you should be beating Me" is really necceasry in your "all important" race blog! Just one mans opinion:hmmm:
See you at the races 😉
Sorry to offend. And sorry to have an overinflated sense of my own ability.
To answer your question, you are the only person that passed me after I broke that I knew. I encouraged you on the trails but you didn't even acknowledge me. Regardless of why I felt I was faster I thought it was a lame move by me to DNF after you passed me because I should step up and take getting beaten. I did and I was.
As for what I write and think, I'm just being honest. People don't have to read and surely they don't need to take what I say seriously. Why you would call this thread "all important" is curious, since most of what I post here is gibberish.
Ok, terrific! Monday morning.
So yesterday I rode with Kirt and Rob Jr. We started at 9:30 so by the time we were done it was hot hot hot. Again, I'm flat. We did 42 miles and I averages 235 watts and by the end I was ready to lay down and sleep for a week. Once again, not enough water. I took 3 bottles for the ride but it wasn't really enough. Kirt was kind enough to give me some Endurolytes for the ride. I didn't cramp though didn't really expect to. This heat is for the bird. Just 1 bird. It's a grackle.
I'm starting to think that working out in the heat has a residual effect over time. This would support Woody's electrolyte model in that if you deplete yourself on Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday, it's going to take your body a while to find a balance again. I had a headache all day the rest of yesterday.
A few items for my nutritional Grand Theory:
1. I think salt makes a mess of things in your normal diet and causes you to possibly become actually addicted to certain foods. I read a little about this food addiction idea last week. Need to refine that.
2. I think drinking flavored drinks is a bad idea. I mean the artificial stuff like diet soda or vitamin water. I think the artificial sweetness really throws your taste buds and the food association circuits into a tizzy. That's my scientific word: tizzy.
One more for good measure based on something I heard yesterday:
3. Those of you who don't understand what it's like for a guy like Utah and I and the hunger we get should count your blessings. I know some people think it's as easy as "just don't eat as much" but it's not. Imagine the hungriest you've ever been, like ever. Now put that feeling in your day, maybe 6-12 times. Just stark raving hunger at total random times of the day, pretty much not correlated at all to when you eat. That's reality for us.
I'm working on #3 using various methods and means*, but I don't feel like writing about it until I've made some connections and such. I'm sure you'll hear all about it, regardless if it works or not.
This week is up in the air. I'm taking today off, but other than that I don't know. I'm off next week so this week is a lot easier to deal with. I may try to WFH one day and get some good riding in one morning. This coming weekend is Medford and possibly Evesham. Medford is the triple but after thinking more about that, it's really dumb. I'm thinking the 4/5, take a break, then the 3/4. That would only fly if Fred is going to do the 3/4. Otherwise I'm probably open to anything. But if we do the 35+ also, the 3/4 will be a short race I think.
I wonder if the 35+ is faster than the 3/4 in general. Last year the 4/5 was 21 mph and the 35+ was 24. The course isn't patsy flat & easy though, so those numbers are not comparable to the Freedom Tour.
* goat sacrificing, voodoo doll creation, calling people out for being slower than you, etc etc
So yesterday I rode with Kirt and Rob Jr. We started at 9:30 so by the time we were done it was hot hot hot. Again, I'm flat. We did 42 miles and I averages 235 watts and by the end I was ready to lay down and sleep for a week. Once again, not enough water. I took 3 bottles for the ride but it wasn't really enough. Kirt was kind enough to give me some Endurolytes for the ride. I didn't cramp though didn't really expect to. This heat is for the bird. Just 1 bird. It's a grackle.
I'm starting to think that working out in the heat has a residual effect over time. This would support Woody's electrolyte model in that if you deplete yourself on Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday, it's going to take your body a while to find a balance again. I had a headache all day the rest of yesterday.
A few items for my nutritional Grand Theory:
1. I think salt makes a mess of things in your normal diet and causes you to possibly become actually addicted to certain foods. I read a little about this food addiction idea last week. Need to refine that.
2. I think drinking flavored drinks is a bad idea. I mean the artificial stuff like diet soda or vitamin water. I think the artificial sweetness really throws your taste buds and the food association circuits into a tizzy. That's my scientific word: tizzy.
One more for good measure based on something I heard yesterday:
3. Those of you who don't understand what it's like for a guy like Utah and I and the hunger we get should count your blessings. I know some people think it's as easy as "just don't eat as much" but it's not. Imagine the hungriest you've ever been, like ever. Now put that feeling in your day, maybe 6-12 times. Just stark raving hunger at total random times of the day, pretty much not correlated at all to when you eat. That's reality for us.
I'm working on #3 using various methods and means*, but I don't feel like writing about it until I've made some connections and such. I'm sure you'll hear all about it, regardless if it works or not.
This week is up in the air. I'm taking today off, but other than that I don't know. I'm off next week so this week is a lot easier to deal with. I may try to WFH one day and get some good riding in one morning. This coming weekend is Medford and possibly Evesham. Medford is the triple but after thinking more about that, it's really dumb. I'm thinking the 4/5, take a break, then the 3/4. That would only fly if Fred is going to do the 3/4. Otherwise I'm probably open to anything. But if we do the 35+ also, the 3/4 will be a short race I think.
I wonder if the 35+ is faster than the 3/4 in general. Last year the 4/5 was 21 mph and the 35+ was 24. The course isn't patsy flat & easy though, so those numbers are not comparable to the Freedom Tour.
* goat sacrificing, voodoo doll creation, calling people out for being slower than you, etc etc
Rob,
I consider you & Norm to be friends, so I am going to be honest as well.
Norm put you in his blog not to call you out but to put some detail into what he writes. It tells a better story with you in there as a point of reference. Norm is faster then you, he is faster then me...he is faster then a lot of people. If he wrote that he passed Roger Foco then you can call bs.
I've raced with you Rob and know that you are a strong cat 1 contentender who has awesome technical skills...no one thinks your lame and if they do they don't know you.
See you at Mooch Madness😀
Nutrition # 3 - I believe it is harder for guys like you & Utah to stay away from food cravings. You guys have been used to eating a certain way as kids and now its extremely difficult to change those eating habits. If you grew up skinny its easier to stay skinny. You and Utah have to battle to keep off weight. The positive is that you guys have sooo much power on a bike.
Well anyway I offer nothing but encouragement towards your weight loss, the same goes for Utah.
In the future, please post this kind of stuff sometime during normal work hours, preferrably like 1:00 or 2:00 PM. It will make things much more interesting for an afternoon at work.
Calcium and magnesium take a while to digest. I take cal/mag tabs the week before a race at night and had a lot of success (especially when I used to actually win races).
I didn't notice what foods you ate during the race. It is noteworthy that most cramping occurs due to overuse (ie going beyond yourself). If you (generically) were already in a hole, cramps can come on. If your base was weak, cramps can come on. I wonder if the field that cramped at DH40 had been impacted by the long winter somehow or collectively has a poor pre-race diet, especially considering the few extremely hot weeks prior (ie poor nutritional recovery). It's not just about drinking water.
I didn't notice what foods you ate during the race. It is noteworthy that most cramping occurs due to overuse (ie going beyond yourself). If you (generically) were already in a hole, cramps can come on. If your base was weak, cramps can come on. I wonder if the field that cramped at DH40 had been impacted by the long winter somehow or collectively has a poor pre-race diet, especially considering the few extremely hot weeks prior (ie poor nutritional recovery). It's not just about drinking water.
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Something about 5pm....at 5pm I could literally eating the wooden cabinet doors on my way into eating whatever is behind them. For me there is no ability to slack. Like when I think of "what I would do if I was a billionaire?" #1 first thing....Hire someone to follow me around all day and give me food and not let me touch anything else. Man that would be awesome. Then when I say to him "BUT IM STARVING" He just wacks me over the head with a shovel and tells me no!
Really though, I feel I can lose 10 more pounds by counting everything I eat, every single day. When I do it, it works....but its really hard to live this way for more than a week or two.
Really though, I feel I can lose 10 more pounds by counting everything I eat, every single day. When I do it, it works....but its really hard to live this way for more than a week or two.
I have a theory on this, though I wouldn't submit it to Scientific American or anything.
The idea is that you practice how you want to play. In spring training, the shortstop takes 1000 ground balls a day, so when the season starts it's all just a routine play. The good shortstops have some natural ability, but they work real hard.
Well here comes the World Series, the biggest stage in the game, and that all-star shortstop is suddenly kicking ground balls that he makes every day, for weeks on end. The grand stage of the Series is a realm he's not used to. So he hasn't actually practiced enough to play well there.
For local mountain bike racing, the DH40 is the World Series. For the top guys, it's just a race. And they don't cramp. But for a huge number of other people (like 440 people), this is the grand stage of the local race scene. As such, I think more people try to play above how they've practiced.
I don't really know how else to explain the inordinate amount of cramping that went on that day.
Iggy should be my PR agent.
On Nutrition #3, like many things, realization is an important step. The real problem is finding what exactly the problem is. I mean yeah, my brain is sending hunger pains to my stomach when it's not hungry. But why? Or more to the point, who cares why, but how do you stop/change that? That's the part I'm working on.
So far I've had some success at doing it. And now that I seem to get "normal" hunger pains my thought is that most of you have no idea what it's like. It's really interesting, and I hope the hell it works. Because this battle sucks.
this is literally the funniest thing i've read in a real long time. well played utah.
i know where this is going...you're doing research on the whole "limits" thing aren't you? if you start chewing on sushi and spitting it into a bowl or something i will smack the sh!t out of you.
I think you're taking 2 independent ideas and combining them. I mean, adding a clock on a VCR was a good idea. But this one is not.
I have read about this idea of chewing on food and spitting it out to disassociate flavors with calories being injected into your system. I think that method is pretty extreme, well beyond what I would want to do. If I was 300 pounds and couldn't move from there, I'd try anything. But when you look deeper, maybe it's not so insane? I don't know, we hold Lance Armstrong up on a pedestal for literally weighing his food. But it's justified because he won the Tour 7 times. But as far as OCD goes, he's Mount Everest where I'm like Mount Whitney or maybe only Mount Mitchell.
Here's a question for you, and I'm being serious. If you could lose 20 pounds by sticking your finger in a bowl of oatmeal every day, twice a day, for 10 minutes at a time, would you do it? You'd need to work this into your lifestyle to make it happen. This isn't real, I just made it up. But I'm curious if you'd do that.
not what i meant, sorry. what i was referring to was the "tricking" of the mind that they did in the experiment with the energy drink. are you going to try to trick your mind into thinking you've eaten? i can only assume that the's the way you were going.
coincidentally, i was listening to that limits podcast when i started failing. i determined there was no life or death issue and pulling the plug was A-OK. ego:1, jake's desire to improve: 0
yes, i would. can i get fries with that?
coincidentally, i was listening to that limits podcast when i started failing. i determined there was no life or death issue and pulling the plug was A-OK. ego:1, jake's desire to improve: 0
yes, i would. can i get fries with that?