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i have a set of the older I9s, coasting the drag is definitely noticable compared to my stans or bontrager hubs, but no it wont completely kill your ride.

I would love to try out a set of hydra hubs, and a set of onyx hubs (bc sprag clutch ?)
 
TimBay said:
I had figured I could just upgrade to GX, which can be done relatively cheap.
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GX Eagle cassette alone is around $200. I am peasant so... not cheap by my standards which is why I clean and lube my chain after every ride.

TimBay said:
What about BB and Cranks? I don't know much about those except that PF can creak a bunch. Should I avoid PF?
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My RDO is PF and it creaked like crazy and I thought it was the BB but when I took it apart the crank and re-greased it, it was fine. So I guess in my case, it wasn't the PF BB that was creaking. But threaded BB is less costly to maintain? I guess you can hack a press fit tool if you want. But if you end up with a carbon frame... not sure if you want to mess around with that. I had the RDO PF BB installed at the LBS.
 
Paul H said:
GX Eagle cassette alone is around $200. I am peasant so... not cheap by my standards which is why I clean and lube my chain after every ride.


My RDO is PF and it creaked like crazy and I thought it was the BB but when I took it apart the crank and re-greased it, it was fine. So I guess in my case, it wasn't the PF BB that was creaking. But threaded BB is less costly to maintain? I guess you can hack a press fit tool if you want. But if you end up with a carbon frame... not sure if you want to mess around with that. I had the RDO PF BB installed at the LBS.
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I guess this sunrace cassette is just heavy? $290 for the GX group.

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Paul H said:
I think its about a 100g difference between the 2
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Looks like sunrace does make a lighter cassete than the gx even. Hmm. Things to consider. I definitely dont want to dump a lot of extra money into a new bike
 
TimBay said:
Looks like sunrace does make a lighter cassete than the gx even. Hmm. Things to consider. I definitely dont want to dump a lot of extra money into a new bike
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I am speaking with no experience here but from what I heard is that the Eagle is rather finicky. If true... not sure I would want to put in an outside component in the mix.
 
iv had no issues with the eagle stuff, but i run a matched setup so outside/non OEM components are not covered here
 
TimBay said:
See, this is why I ask questions. I know a bit about the different forks and drivetrains, but not a whole lot. I didn't realize NX wasn't on the XD driver, which makes me think more now because I had figured I could just upgrade to GX, which can be done relatively cheap.

What about BB and Cranks? I don't know much about those except that PF can creak a bunch. Should I avoid PF? Just trying to figure out what I should stay away from vs what I can upgrade later. Just things I should consider while window shopping and figuring out the eventual purchase. Basically trying to make sure I buy a bike I'll dig for many many years.
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I wouldn't shy away from a bike due to the BB. I have a press fit on my YT and it's fine. It did creak not long after I got it but that was the shitty Raceface bottom bracket not the fact that it was press fit. I installed a new Hope BB and it has been fine/silent for the last 2,231 miles. I have a threaded BB on my very first big box bike and that has creaked, too. If they creak you take them apart and re-install them correctly and they should be fine.

Kangdoy said:
Which i9 hubs do you have? Really interested in the Hydra because.....690 points of engagement.
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I've got the Torch hubs. Only 120 POE for me.

shrpshtr325 said:
i have a set of the older I9s, coasting the drag is definitely noticable compared to my stans or bontrager hubs, but no it wont completely kill your ride.

I would love to try out a set of hydra hubs, and a set of onyx hubs (bc sprag clutch ?)
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I think all of this talk about drag is silly. I'm not saying there isn't more drag in a high engagement hub I just think at some point we are worrying about things that don't matter very much.

The Onyx hubs are interesting. Aren't they crazy heavy, though? I actually think a silent hub would be pretty awesome.
 
Tim said:
I wouldn't shy away from a bike due to the BB. I have a press fit on my YT and it's fine. It did creak not long after I got it but that was the shitty Raceface bottom bracket not the fact that it was press fit. I installed a new Hope BB and it has been fine/silent for the last 2,231 miles. I have a threaded BB on my very first big box bike and that has creaked, too. If they creak you take them apart and re-install them correctly and they should be fine.



I've got the Torch hubs. Only 120 POE for me.



I think all of this talk about drag is silly. I'm not saying there isn't more drag in a high engagement hub I just think at some point we are worrying about things that don't matter very much.

The Onyx hubs are interesting. Aren't they crazy heavy, though? I actually think a silent hub would be pretty awesome.
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Onyx came out with a new lighter hub very recently but yes they are still much heavier than some of the other hubs. These would probably still go on my dream build wheels though.
 
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BPaze said:
Onyx came out with a new lighter hub very recently but yes they are still much heavier than some of the other hubs. These would probably still go on my dream build wheels though.
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Got my XT hubs yesterday and they are heavy....
 
Tim said:
I think all of this talk about drag is silly. I'm not saying there isn't more drag in a high engagement hub I just think at some point we are worrying about things that don't matter very much.
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I agree... I was just passing on info
When downhilling on a MTB, unless you are beast, you will be riding the brakes to some degree anyways so it really doesn't matter much. And if you are a beast... you can pedal on the downhill to lessen the drag lol
 
Paul H said:
XT M765 is listed at 435g
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Well then better get you some Onyx to shave that weight and improve engagement, but comparing it to the I9 Hydra's at 286g it is kinda heavy. In all honesty I don't care about the weight of anything nor would I most likely ever buy a hub that costs $500+ or a wheelset that costs $1,500+.
 
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