Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
It typically beeps if cars are approaching faster than normal and coming directly towards you. Makes you look over shoulder and cover your ass.
Simple vs techy—-Wahoo Element Bolt vs Garmin Edge 530
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Cassinonorth
Well-Known Member
Unless you're riding in NYC, there's plenty of gaps in cars which is a huge factor when trying to avoid potholes or debris. It's been a game changer for my safety on the road. I feel like cars respect you more when they see you moving out of the way when they approach.
that was true before corona, now i have to ride on public roads like the rest of you peasants. . . . .
jklett
Well-Known Member
Better than getting smacked in the junk by the bolt handle.
Karate Monkey
Well-Known Member
Serious answer incoming:
Since the handlebars put the rider in a super upright position (sit up and beg), they would be biased towards sliding forward; pushing into the pedals would push them back off the elevated nose. The leather saddle, additionally, sags in the mid-span, so the rider would find a natural depression in the leather that they would settle into to, likely right in front of the metal frame in the back.
You actually see the same thing on beach cruisers, though it doesn't look nearly as pronounced due to the way the saddle is constructed.
It's more like it lets you hog the whole road. Looking over your shoulder at 30+ is no fun, 40+ downright dangerous. You can take the whole road on a descent OR know that a car is right behind you and be ready to handle a crappy part of the road. Same with tight group rides when your coming off of taking a pull or something like that. Uphill, 99% of the time I hear a car before the Varia picks it up. I've never heard anyone say the wish they hadn't bought it. Can you do the same thing with a $10 dork mirror? Probably.
As for the Element question, the phone interface simplicity is awesome. Navigation is somewhere between fair and totally sucks, depending on what you're trying to do. When mine breaks (or they break it via another botched update), over to Garmin I go. DC Rainmaker had a good overview with his review of the Roam. Basically said Garmin was blowing it and Wahoo gave them a good kick in the ass with the Element. With the 530, roles basically reversed. Roam (according to him) is barely an upgrade while the 530 is great.
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rick81721
Lothar
Can't compare the roam to the 530 (last garmin I had was an 810) but at least on the road, navigation was flawless. Don't see how anything could be significantly better - either it works and is easy to follow or it doesn't. Will see this week how it works on a trail system.
good at following a programmed course, bring up the map and try to zoom and pan to see where you want to go.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
6 of 8 rides the garmin has froze on me. I was doing intervals at bell works yesterday and I turned around while in a live segment. Poof...frozen. I spent another hour trying to set it up. Garmin is over complicated geekware with many flaws. I will stick with the bolt until my karoo 2 comes in. I like dcrainmaker but his review of the garmin is way off. Wahoo is so simple with buttons u can hit every time on the dime.Navigatio is good enough for me.
Paul H
Fearless OOS Poser
You should contact Garmin
6 out of 8 is not normal from my experience.
Had my 530 for a little bit over a year and it froze only once and has not happened since. You may have a defective unit.
rick81721
Lothar
Not sure what you mean - if I'm just riding I zoom out to see what trail I might want to take. In any event, I use navigation maybe a handful of times a year so this whole thing is pretty much moot to me
zooming out on the trails makes the trails disappear, either because of "level" of trail or off the side of the screen.
ie - suddenly the trails are gone,and only the dirt roads or border roads are visible.
rick81721
Lothar
That's a feature of the bolt, not the roam - bigger screen
i have and Elemnt, not a bolt - same screen as yours, same OS.
you can not pan the map.
rick81721
Lothar
yeah I know you can't pan - zooming in or out I've never had an issue losing trails I'm looking for
Mine has frozen 0 times. I use it for navigation regularly. Had it a year? At least. IDFK.
OP DT needs a refund. The unit is defective.
Yea mine hasn't frozen once(over a year now), yours must be defective.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Not worth it. I’m a blue collar guy that doesn’t want to spend a day setting the unit up. The bolt is so simple it’s awesome. Wish the nav issue didn’t work me up. Everyone I know says “yea, the garmin takes sone time to set yp and it can be frustrating”. Not for me.