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Both are medium 29ers.The trail 5 is includes frame,fork,seatpost,bars which all are stock parts.The frame has some tire rub on chainstay area.The origin 8 has truvativ cranks and sliding dropouts.It can be set up geared if u buy a hanger.I have 7 bikes in my apartment's basement just need some space.Asking $80 for each or can do package deal.Trying to post pics now
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