Magic Mary experience…

Are Vigilantes true to size? Schwalbes are usually close, Maxxis tiny. Haven't tried WTB tires for some time
 
Are Vigilantes true to size? Schwalbes are usually close, Maxxis tiny. Haven't tried WTB tires for some time
The Vigilante is fairly oversized. The Trailboss is undersized. The below picture is not the greatest of the Vig but it’s the width of the casing. The threads practically measure to a 2.6.
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And this is just for reference…
 
It’s an excellent tire, more enduro I would venture to say….not really a trail tire IMHO. The soft compound is very grippy and really too grippy on hard pack, which really slows it down. But it’s amazing on the roots and rocks. And I love the ability to lean and any angle without loss of grip (I dislike tires that have dead zones: think DHF).

However despite the weight and compound it does roll quicker than the DHF 2.5 MaxTerra I had on previously.

Hence my interest in the MM, due to it being 100 grams lighter, are slightly harder compound (in comparison to WTBs), and slightly narrower.

The Purgatory T9 is pretty dang good but I again prefer block type moto style and deeper lugged tire like the Vig/MM/Hellkat/ect. Those style tires are not the best for hard pack but for whatever reason they work best for me.

I would gladly run the Vig if it were slightly narrower and lighter.
 
It’s an excellent tire, more enduro I would venture to say….not really a trail tire IMHO. The soft compound is very grippy and really too grippy on hard pack, which really slows it down. But it’s amazing on the roots and rocks. And I love the ability to lean and any angle without loss of grip (I dislike tires that have dead zones: think DHF).

However despite the weight and compound it does roll quicker than the DHF 2.5 MaxTerra I had on previously.

Hence my interest in the MM, due to it being 100 grams lighter, are slightly harder compound (in comparison to WTBs), and slightly narrower.

The Purgatory T9 is pretty dang good but I again prefer block type moto style and deeper lugged tire like the Vig/MM/Hellkat/ect. Those style tires are not the best for hard pack but for whatever reason they work best for me.

I would gladly run the Vig if it were slightly narrower and lighter.
Isn't there a 2.3 size? If oversized wouldn't that be closer to 2.4 real width?
 
Isn't there a 2.3 size? If oversized wouldn't that be closer to 2.4 real width?
The lugs are different on the 2.3 than the 2.5/2.6/2.8. The newer style side lugs are on the larger size. I have never ridden the 2.3 but every I read in regard made it seem the newer lug design is much better on hard pack. Whereas the older style drifter a lot. But again I have zero experience with the 2.3.
 
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I figured what the hell, the only way to truly know if it works on my local trails or how it compares to the Vigilante is to try one!

Preliminary and honestly worthless initial impressions after having it installed for 15 minutes:
MM rolls faster on grass (hopefully the same on the trails 👍👍)
MM is slightly more skidish (But the waxy coating material is highly present)
MM has a softer casing (Super Ground)

Thanks again for all the information, I will hopefully start putting real mileage by March/April ish and I will report back.
 
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