Magic Mary experience…
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The Vigilante is fairly oversized. The Trailboss is undersized. The below picture is not the greatest of the Vig but it’s the width of the casing. The threads practically measure to a 2.6.
It’s an excellent tire, more enduro I would venture to say….not really a trail tire IMHO. The soft compound is very grippy and really too grippy on hard pack, which really slows it down. But it’s amazing on the roots and rocks. And I love the ability to lean and any angle without loss of grip (I dislike tires that have dead zones: think DHF).
However despite the weight and compound it does roll quicker than the DHF 2.5 MaxTerra I had on previously.
Hence my interest in the MM, due to it being 100 grams lighter, are slightly harder compound (in comparison to WTBs), and slightly narrower.
The Purgatory T9 is pretty dang good but I again prefer block type moto style and deeper lugged tire like the Vig/MM/Hellkat/ect. Those style tires are not the best for hard pack but for whatever reason they work best for me.
I would gladly run the Vig if it were slightly narrower and lighter.
However despite the weight and compound it does roll quicker than the DHF 2.5 MaxTerra I had on previously.
Hence my interest in the MM, due to it being 100 grams lighter, are slightly harder compound (in comparison to WTBs), and slightly narrower.
The Purgatory T9 is pretty dang good but I again prefer block type moto style and deeper lugged tire like the Vig/MM/Hellkat/ect. Those style tires are not the best for hard pack but for whatever reason they work best for me.
I would gladly run the Vig if it were slightly narrower and lighter.
qclabrat
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Isn't there a 2.3 size? If oversized wouldn't that be closer to 2.4 real width?
The lugs are different on the 2.3 than the 2.5/2.6/2.8. The newer style side lugs are on the larger size. I have never ridden the 2.3 but every I read in regard made it seem the newer lug design is much better on hard pack. Whereas the older style drifter a lot. But again I have zero experience with the 2.3.
Preliminary and honestly worthless initial impressions after having it installed for 15 minutes:
MM rolls faster on grass (hopefully the same on the trails 👍👍)
MM is slightly more skidish (But the waxy coating material is highly present)
MM has a softer casing (Super Ground)
Thanks again for all the information, I will hopefully start putting real mileage by March/April ish and I will report back.
I did 6 miles this and I am very happy. The MM is very similar to the Vigilante.
The Vig is slightly grippier due to the softer compound. Schwable Ultra Soft may be a better competitor but I am sticking with the soft. It works perfectly good and rolls slightly faster like I was hoping.
Off camber corners goes to the Vig but (…wasn’t expecting this) the MM really pulls you into the turns faster which was nice.
The MM has a stiff sidewall (Super Ground). I still need to play with air pressure and I was worried the Super Ground wasn’t going to be enough. The Vig’s casing is a little more comfortable.
Again, overall very similar tires…but I running the MM for the season for better or worse.
Appreciate everyone’s advice! This was not meant to be an extensive review by any means…
The Vig is slightly grippier due to the softer compound. Schwable Ultra Soft may be a better competitor but I am sticking with the soft. It works perfectly good and rolls slightly faster like I was hoping.
Off camber corners goes to the Vig but (…wasn’t expecting this) the MM really pulls you into the turns faster which was nice.
The MM has a stiff sidewall (Super Ground). I still need to play with air pressure and I was worried the Super Ground wasn’t going to be enough. The Vig’s casing is a little more comfortable.
Again, overall very similar tires…but I running the MM for the season for better or worse.
Appreciate everyone’s advice! This was not meant to be an extensive review by any means…
The Kalmyk
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qclabrat
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Good review, what are you running out back?
Kenda Karma 2 Pro. Slightly under tired in the looser conditions but great on moist or dry hard pack, roots/rocks. It’s fairly similar the Bontrager XR4 which I really liked. Kenda has a better compound and corners better despite it having smaller lugs.
I enjoy the lesser aggressive tires in the rear for pedaling and it’s usually faster until I hit the really technical stuff.
I enjoy the lesser aggressive tires in the rear for pedaling and it’s usually faster until I hit the really technical stuff.