Johnny Utahs Bike Change Operation

[extremedave]

PS:
Sorry xDave. yo-yo'd my weight a couple times over the years. it's the beer(s). and the munchies that go with it.

This is extremely depressing. Cruel fates, and all that jazz. Wine? Vodka? Grain alcohol? This is getting pathetic isn't it.

There's nothing to anticipate in the remake. How could you improve upon pefection?

 

[Johnny Utah]

Do Bearscat, sign up right now and don't even think about it. Having a nice hard race like that on the horizon will really motivate you to keep to the plan!! If you want to do some good, long fat rides, hit me up, I'm always down.

-Jim.

I am 75% there, as I am in the final stages of figuring out how to breakup my season. Post saturday, I have a feeling I will sign up.

And without question I am going to take you up on the ride offer.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I thought I should post up some diet updates I realized last night:

Food - went full veg (no meat or fish) a little over two weeks ago. I should note, I still have two eggs each morning.

Dairy - Cut it out about 9 days ago (but will revisit, just trying to watch what I take in, mainly cheese as I do not do milk or ice cream).

Booze - Cut it out on the 19th.

Sweets - Love them.

I thought I would be energy starved by now, but the truth is I have the same energy, my legs are strong (we will see Saturday), and my mind is sharp. Energy is pretty steady throughout the day, no big curves. I am eatign the three regular meals with some snacks in between.

Sleepwise, I used to get up once in the middle of the night, now I sleep through (figure 8 hours a night )

Today
As for food today, I brought the same thing as yesterday. Yesterday went well with the exception of the previously mentioned cookies and some poporn. Either way, not trying to starve myself before the weekend.

Looking to do another quick 10 miles or so tonight, it maybe more of a social pace.

 

[stb222]

Are these diet changes are lifestyle changes or just for the short term?

 

[Johnny Utah]

Are these diet changes are lifestyle changes or just for the short term?

I am looking for the lifestyle change, heart disease runs in the family, and I am not looking to get any heavier.

 

[Patrick]

what will be your main protein source?

do you have a food log?

does anyone? do they work as a motivator?

 

[Norm]

do you have a food log?

does anyone? do they work as a motivator?

I used to have 1 and it's a mixed bag. This is really in the "everyone is personal" thing. You have to start with some basis. My basis is this: I am a fucking slob. In college, I once ate 7 slices of white pizza. That's a week's worth of food for most growing children.

With that in mind, the food log was good at times, but other times would allow me to just pig out. The days I would go on big rides I would just eat because I had a calorie deficit. If it's dinner time and I'm still 2400 calories in the hole, I would just go balls deep eating WTF-ever I wanted, regardless if I was hungry or not. So in terms of that, mixed bag.

As far as looking back for patterns: zero. It was just a daily governor of food intake. It gets tedious though.

 

[giff06]

Hey John,
Great stuff! Congrats on all the positive lifestyle changes. You won't regret it, especially as you age.The best I can recommend after years of playing soccer( until mid 40s) Being a kayak, surfski racer( still but on a less competitive level) A road bicycle racer(until my early 50's) and today just an active old guy is let the changes suit your life, don't change your life radically unless you are self destructive(which you are not) and enjoy all things in moderation.(even beer)!
Good luck with the changes and on Saturday!
Ed (and Pat)
TSRt

 

[Johnny Utah]

Thanks for the feedback guys, I guess I will offer some additional feedback:

Protein - I am a bigger guy, since my low of 163lbs, I spent three years in the gym at five days a week lifting, pulling 150grams plus of protein a day (90+ grams in whey shakes). This put width on my shoulders and built my back, chest and legs. A good weight for me is about 185lbs now, otherwise I need to cut mass (I am in no shape way or form cut).

After agitating my legs and shoulder, as well as just being bored of being in the gym and not wanting to get bulkier, I concentrated more on riding, rather that shorter rides & lifting with DH on the weekend.

When I trained to head up to Whistler, I went vegetarian for six months and had no issue. This included lifting and riding five to six days a week. In my opionion, the gym culture teaches this huge protien push, I can undertsand it to stay lean or build mass, but I am not sure the averge person need this, especially in the volume that is pushed to people.

In no way shape or form I am against eating meat or fish, I just feel better when I obstain. I am sure I will be back.

Beer - I started to find this was becoming a hobby, there was a beer collection, beer glass collection, and pretty much every event became a beer function. There were post ride beers, lets work on the house beers, it's raining out beers, they make breakfast beers, so lets have one at breakfast beers, etc. My gym days taught me moderation is key with the nectar of the gods, so to me one night a week with a few pops was good, I have not been following that pattern. With that came weigth gain and wasted time (to me). I am not saying I am going to stay away from it, just taking some time off. I guess I look at it as "hitting the reset button", it is probably micro managing or a little rediculous, but I do not like being used to having the booze linked to all of lifes events.

Previously I smoked for five or so years, so when I quit I remember most of the time I didn't even want to smoke, it had just become habit of, "I am in the car, I need to smoke, I am drinking coffee, I need to smoke, I am upset, I need to smoke...etc. Maybe I am paranoid that will happen with beer....

Drive - I guess buying a house, gettign married, and approaching my mid thirties is making me look into my future. I do not want to stop riding for a very long time, so I am trying to figure out how best to take care of myself to do this while being able to perform (riding is much more fun at speed!) At this point I am trying to avoid futher injury and keep my weigth down going forward. Maybe I look at it as taking inventory of my cycling future and how to best keep it going:hmmm:

As growing up being a heavier kid, I tend to be a bit hard on myself, but my weigth balloons pretty easy, so I try to watch it. It has kind of been unchecked for the past three or so years.

 

[pooriggy]

+1 on doing BS50. The thought of doing this course may keep you from eating a whole pizza and go out and ride more instead.

Ride bikes, stay awesome.

 

[bonefishjake]

As far as looking back for patterns: zero. It was just a daily governor of food intake. It gets tedious though.

it does get tedious...but i also found it really helpful to understand portions. for example, WTF does 6 oz of grilled chicken look like? 23 almonds? 50 goldfish? you also see fist hand the caloric damage that six beers can put on you.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I guess I will offer some additional feedback:

Protein - I am a bigger guy, since my low of 163lbs, I spent three years in the gym at five days a week lifting, pulling 150grams plus of protein a day (90+ grams in whey shakes). This put width on my shoulders and built my back, chest and legs. A good weight for me is about 185lbs now, otherwise I need to cut mass (I am in no shape way or form cut).

After agitating my legs and shoulder, as well as just being bored of being in the gym and not wanting to get bulkier, I concentrated more on riding, rather that shorter rides & lifting with DH on the weekend.

When I trained to head up to Whistler, I went vegetarian for six months and had no issue. This included lifting and riding five to six days a week. In my opionion, the gym culture teaches this huge protien push, I can undertsand it to stay lean or build mass, but I am not sure the averge person need this, especially in the volume that is pushed to people.

In no way shape or form I am against eating meat or fish, I just feel better when I obstain. I am sure I will be back.

Beer - I started to find this was becoming a hobby, there was a beer collection, beer glass collection, and pretty much every event became a beer function. There were post ride beers, lets work on the house beers, it's raining out beers, they make breakfast beers, so lets have one at breakfast beers, etc. My gym days taught me moderation is key with the nectar of the gods, so to me one night a week with a few pops was good, I have not been following that pattern. With that came weigth gain and wasted time (to me). I am not saying I am going to stay away from it, just taking some time off. I guess I look at it as "hitting the reset button", it is probably micro managing or a little rediculous, but I do not like being used to having the booze linked to all of lifes events.

Previously I smoked for five or so years, so when I quit I remember most of the time I didn't even want to smoke, it had just become habit of, "I am in the car, I need to smoke, I am drinking coffee, I need to smoke, I am upset, I need to smoke...etc. Maybe I am paranoid that will happen with beer....

Drive - I guess buying a house, gettign married, and approaching my mid thirties is making me look into my future. I do not want to stop riding for a very long time, so I am trying to figure out how best to take care of myself to do this while being able to perform (riding is much more fun at speed!) At this point I am trying to avoid futher injury and keep my weigth down going forward. Maybe I look at it as taking inventory of my cycling future and how to best keep it going:hmmm:

As growing up being a heavier kid, I tend to be a bit hard on myself, but my weigth balloons pretty easy, so I try to watch it. It has kind of been unchecked for the past three or so years.

man, we've lived similar lives. i used to be a full-on gym rat. never the body building kind, the powerlifting kind. was up to 250 at one point, just hammering protein. this was also about the point my joints started killing me and i would sweat in 50* weather. that's when i pulled the bike out of the shed and went for my first MTB real mtb ride in like 5 years. two weeks later i bough my fuel ex and that was that. i still lift on occasion but i much prefer actual physical labor and kettle bells these days.

 

[Norm]

it does get tedious...but i also found it really helpful to understand portions. for example, WTF does 6 oz of grilled chicken look like? 23 almonds? 50 goldfish? you also see fist hand the caloric damage that six beers can put on you.

For me the alcohol was no surprise at all. What was more of a surprise was to find out that I can easily eat 1000 calories of almonds in a sitting. And peanut butter, forget it. Daily caloric intake in 7 minutes, easy.

 

[RobW]

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[Johnny Utah]

it does get tedious...but i also found it really helpful to understand portions. for example, WTF does 6 oz of grilled chicken look like? 23 almonds? 50 goldfish? you also see fist hand the caloric damage that six beers can put on you.



man, we've lived similar lives. i used to be a full-on gym rat. never the body building kind, the powerlifting kind. was up to 250 at one point, just hammering protein. this was also about the point my joints started killing me and i would sweat in 50* weather. that's when i pulled the bike out of the shed and went for my first MTB real mtb ride in like 5 years. two weeks later i bough my fuel ex and that was that. i still lift on occasion but i much prefer actual physical labor and kettle bells these days.

I hear ya, in no way am I huge, but size started to get in the way and had bi-products I was not happy with including, but no limited to joint and lower back pain. With all of the lifting and lean eating, my energy was expanded at the gym and left me slow and lethargic on my rides. I had to ask myself, what am I training for at this point in my life? To stay healthy, the bike and some basic weigth resistant workouts was all I needed.

Going forward, I realized it was not my goal to be in the gym the rest of my life or 35 years old and 235lbs (be it muscle or fat). Then again, I am not eager or do not want to go below 170lbs (that would be really hard for me).

 

[Johnny Utah]

For me the alcohol was no surprise at all. What was more of a surprise was to find out that I can easily eat 1000 calories of almonds in a sitting. And peanut butter, forget it. Daily caloric intake in 7 minutes, easy.

Amen! I hear ya 100% as a bag of shelled peanuts is in my drawer. In stead of diving in, I am slowly cutting food out, as I do not want it to hamper my energy for longer rides. So last week I was 201/202, if I make it to 185lbs by June first, I will be happy.

 

[jnos]

So last week I was 201/202, if I make it to 185lbs by June first, I will be happy.

I don't think you'll have an issue with that. I don't know you personally, but I can tell your type (i.e. Once I commit to something, I get shit done) by these posts.

 

[Magic]

I dropped 13lbs from food poisoning in a week. You can hit your goal by June! =)

 

[bonefishjake]

For me the alcohol was no surprise at all. What was more of a surprise was to find out that I can easily eat 1000 calories of almonds in a sitting. And peanut butter, forget it. Daily caloric intake in 7 minutes, easy.

it wasn't necessarily a surprise, but it is polarizing to see a 90 minute ride's worth of calorie deficit decimated by six bottles and sitting on your ass.

I hear ya, in no way am I huge, but size started to get in the way and had bi-products I was not happy with including, but no limited to joint and lower back pain. With all of the lifting and lean eating, my energy was expanded at the gym and left me slow and lethargic on my rides. I had to ask myself, what am I training for at this point in my life? To stay healthy, the bike and some basic weigth resistant workouts was all I needed.

Going forward, I realized it was not my goal to be in the gym the rest of my life or 35 years old and 235lbs (be it muscle or fat). Then again, I am not eager or do not want to go below 170lbs (that would be really hard for me).

that was more or less a factor for me as well. i was really big and really strong. but WTF was i going to do with it? i knew without question that if i wanted to actually compete and go to the "next level" (whatever the F the next level is when you're 34), i was 100% going to have to take lots of drugs. no thank you, and double no thank you with two little ones (at the time). bikes can be expensive, but nothing near the long-term costs of that shit.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Weighed in this morning as this weekend will be a mess with pre-ride meal tonight, Marty's race tomorrow, and my dads B-Day dinner on Sunday.

Came in at a flat 200lbs, eight pounds in 2.5 weeks......I am not complaining.

Got about 8.5 hrs of sleep last night and will try for seven tonight, but I am antsy to ride tomorrow.

Skipped the ride last night to rest my elgs and continue sanding my hardword floors (as I will not get any housework done this weekend and need to keep the Mrs. Happy).

Tonight I am going to pack my gear, I will send a picture of the food I pack for the ride tomorrow, mostly gummies and Lara bars.

I have a four day weekend next week, so I am already planning some sort of larger ride for possibly friday and Monday. Stay Tuned.

Song of the Day - Bassnectar - When I grow up

 

[RobW]

Song of the Day - Bassnectar - When I grow up

I could ride to this song forever!! relaxing but enough energy to make ya keep crankin!