Fit4 Compared to Grip2
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Dingo
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I was referring to the 34 fork, 2021 is the first year for G2
2021 Fox Fork Lineup - What's New and Improved
For 2021 Fox has taken some of their best forks and made them better, like the Fox 34 with the Grip2 damper, or the redesigned Fox 36 and Fox 40, as well as introducing the new Fox 38 to handle the fastest and roughest riders in the enduro category. Whatever the terrain, Fox 2021 fork lineup has...
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I had a love/hate relationship with the 2016 fox 34 factory fit4 that was spec'ed on my Giant Trance. I just could not dial low speed harshness out of the fork. I did some research here and elsewhere and updated to the newer generation float air shaft which adds some suppleness as well as the luftkappe. That provided an improvement in feel, but signs pointed that the fit 4 damper had limitations that limited the tuneabilty. I called Fox and they confirmed Grip2 was backwards compatible with my generation fork-so I picked one up and installed it myself.
Having the ability to dial low and high speed compression and rebound elevates the fork's handling everywhere. Yes, it does require a concerted effort to dial the circuits, but the baselines settings are pretty good.
BTW-my luftkappe is for sale if anyone is jonesing to dial in float 34 prior generation fork.
-Scott
I had a love/hate relationship with the 2016 fox 34 factory fit4 that was spec'ed on my Giant Trance. I just could not dial low speed harshness out of the fork. I did some research here and elsewhere and updated to the newer generation float air shaft which adds some suppleness as well as the luftkappe. That provided an improvement in feel, but signs pointed that the fit 4 damper had limitations that limited the tuneabilty. I called Fox and they confirmed Grip2 was backwards compatible with my generation fork-so I picked one up and installed it myself.
Having the ability to dial low and high speed compression and rebound elevates the fork's handling everywhere. Yes, it does require a concerted effort to dial the circuits, but the baselines settings are pretty good.
BTW-my luftkappe is for sale if anyone is jonesing to dial in float 34 prior generation fork.
-Scott
w_b
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Inquiring minds want to know why/how.
Starting with wide open compression and lsr 7, hsr 6
Dingo
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Thats where mine is set. What pressure do you have, and what do you use to measure. I'm at 75 psi using fox digital. That 3 weight levels lower than what fox recommends for a 210 pound rider. It's still no where near using full travel, even slamming into stuff. No tokens either. I may remove the luftkappe and use the EVOL piston. With the fit 4, it was using almost all the travel. Almost regret buying grip, because there is not much difference for the expense.
I am somewhere around 170, 53 psi, I am one click faster in each rebound setting because I typically like a faster rebound. I also have the mrp cartridge at 7 clicks.
I was with my fit4. Will see where it lands with the grip 2. Right now at that pressure I am at 30mm sag, 140 travel.
I am looking at the chart now. Not sure what is going on but I have had it around 51 forever. The mrp setting I have is middle of the road progression.
Dingo
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I'm at 30mm sag measured the fox way, 140 travel. Sag is tricky to measure, in the sense of does it matter what the number is. That guy on you tube puts all his weight on the bars, but he recomends a higher %. The lufftkappe guy does not even use it as a set up, so I if I used his way it would be 42mm to get full travel. Way too far into the travel. Thats why i'm going to remove his piston and try it stock. Hope the small bump sensitivity is the same. Darn fork was really good before the grip . UGH
Wait, I thought grip was
Supposed to be better!
First ride today, temp was right around 32 (obviously not the best temp to be setting up at).
One note, I did so the air shaft service when I installed the Grip2 cartridge., so some of the following could be affecting the following:
First impressions, wow, what a difference. I didn't want to take the time to mess with settings today, but I did take mental notes on handling. At nesh, there are a number of choppy root and rock sections and the initial settings for rebound seemed pretty damn good, 7 lsr, 6 hsr. The fork was smoothing out the chop like it never did before. And the feaster I went, the better it was. I hit a couple of the sections faster than normal and it felt awesome. I did end up going on click faster on lsr and i will probably go one more. The fork wasn't popping off of stuff I wanted to "jump" off of and that one click helped. The small bump sensitivity was excellent, however this could be due to the air shaft service, but some small, harsh hits that the fit4 would "bounce" off of, were just smoothed out today.
There are two small drops here, one is just a roll off into a transition, and hitting that I didn't get any bounce back from the rebound. The second one I hit was a 10' gap with a 3' drop into a transition. Perfect there too.
I used almost all of the travel once.
I didn't mess with compression today, but I did noticed some brake dive and a bit of dive in corners. Will move on to that eventually.
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I understand at your age, you have limited mental capacity, hence, suspension settings probably don’t make the cut.
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1speed
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sundaydoug
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Adding LSC damping should help tune out that brake dive. Other than that it sounds like your fork is feeling pretty darn good. The fact that it's feeling better the faster you go while also using almost all the travel is a good sign.