Carbon wheels!

Captain Brainstorm said:
I thought that part of the point of carbon wheels was to shave some weight?
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Not in the MTB arena. The amount of carbon needed to make a carbon wheel strong enough erases any weight savings. Main thing that you gain from carbon is the lateral stiffness, which some people say is too stiff.

Stick with alloy on the trails... can’t go wrong.
 
Xler8 said:
Not in the MTB arena. The amount of carbon needed to make a carbon wheel strong enough erases any weight savings. Main thing that you gain from carbon is the lateral stiffness, which some people say is too stiff.

Stick with alloy on the trails... can’t go wrong.
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Carbon is like a bazillion times stronger. What i have done to my valors would surely have pretzelled poor alloy hoops.
 
There is something unique and intangible about carbon wheels that just doesn’t exist in alloy wheels.

Evenwhenriding plus tires, I’d have a hard time going back to alloy rims


Carbon spins up to speed with a perceived lower effort and the pay do impact the handling of any bike I’ve tired them on


The Zipp rim is an interesting concept and one that I’m eager to demo shortly.

I saw Jerome Clementz on these for at least the last two years, so I’d bet they have them sorted out


As for reserve wheel failures, they have both been under Trip who rides the sour lands a ton and come from a box background. (Not gentle)

Both wheels were replaced quickly without any fuss. I’d guess that this is the new benchmark in customer service / warranty.
 
jdog said:
There is something unique and intangible about carbon wheels that just doesn’t exist in alloy wheels.

Evenwhenriding plus tires, I’d have a hard time going back to alloy rims


Carbon spins up to speed with a perceived lower effort and the pay do impact the handling of any bike I’ve tired them on


The Zipp rim is an interesting concept and one that I’m eager to demo shortly.

I saw Jerome Clementz on these for at least the last two years, so I’d bet they have them sorted out


As for reserve wheel failures, they have both been under Trip who rides the sour lands a ton and come from a box background. (Not gentle)

Both wheels were replaced quickly without any fuss. I’d guess that this is the new benchmark in customer service / warranty.
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You can try to "spin" it any way you want, but broken wheels are broken wheels, and heavier wheels are heavier wheels, because #physics.
 
To quote Chris Rock: "Good Lord that's a lot of money". My Nextie 27.5+ rims have been holding up to my fat ass at a fraction of the price of a single Zipp rim. Life time replacement warranty or not I'll stick with my Nexties. If I can break 4 carbon fiber rims (to match the cost of 1 Zipp rim) then I have no business riding on carbon rims or mountain biking in general.
 
These are bizarre looking

https://m.pinkbike.com/news/review-quais-isos-33-carbon-wheels-look-odd-are-very-robust.html

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Last time I was at Halter’s I made the very real mistake of puttering around in the parking lot on @jdog’s new pivot... the one with the “new” Onyx hubs and the OP new rims.

All I can say is, I told J I hate him...... yeah, they’re that nice.
 
Still hard to justify getting a rim that cost 2-6+ times an aluminum rim. Especially when pink bike says every tester has broken multiple carbon rims.
Juggernaut said:
Last time I was at Halter’s I made the very real mistake of puttering around in the parking lot on @jdog’s new pivot... the one with the “new” Onyx hubs and the OP new rims.

All I can say is, I told J I hate him...... yeah, they’re that nice.
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come on man, you know that trick!
 
Juggernaut said:
Last time I was at Halter’s I made the very real mistake of puttering around in the parking lot on @jdog’s new pivot... the one with the “new” Onyx hubs and the OP new rims.

All I can say is, I told J I hate him...... yeah, they’re that nice.
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Couldn't you say that you were mugged? Lots of thugs in Montgomery :oops:
 
stb222 said:
Still hard to justify getting a rim that cost 2-6+ times an aluminum rim. Especially when pink bike says every tester has broken multiple carbon rims.
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You are quoting Dan and comparing him to Pink Bike testers, hmm. That said, I'm all in on the aluminum rims for price and reliability.

Dan- mad love my man!;)
 
The Kalmyk said:
You are quoting Dan and comparing him to Pink Bike testers, hmm. That said, I'm all in on the aluminum rims for price and reliability.

Dan- mad love my man!;)
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My LBS strongly recommended that I don't go carbon on my wheel build, so I built up Flow MK3's around my Hadley Hubs, and couldn't be happier. I had Easton ARC's before, and I can run tire pressures slightly lower on the Flows. I destroyed my ARC's running higher pressures, FWIW.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
My LBS strongly recommended that I don't go carbon on my wheel build, so I built up Flow MK3's around my Hadley Hubs, and couldn't be happier. I had Easton ARC's before, and I can run tire pressures slightly lower on the Flows. I destroyed my ARC's running higher pressures, FWIW.
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Yeah no way I'm going carbon. Too pricey for this cat.
 
Lots of carbon wheels have lifetime warranties. So.... Just do it
 
I don't know anything about fancypants name brand carbon rims, but my China carbon rims are bombproof.
 
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