Bike Van - Recommendations

roc

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Mercedes Metris. Riding buddy has one 👍 fits three bikes in back while maintaining the middle row for riders and gear. Very versatile
I use one of these to travel for work. If it's less than 8-10 hours, I'll drive. It has a very comfortable ride, has some pep, and it moves, cruises at 80, no problem. We have rear wheel drive version, so it may be the worst vehicle I've ever been in for snow, just an FYI... I learned that lesson, and will not drive it in the snow, at all.

Plenty of room in the back for a couple of bikes and golf clubs as well.
 

icebiker

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I use one of these to travel for work. If it's less than 8-10 hours, I'll drive. It has a very comfortable ride, has some pep, and it moves, cruises at 80, no problem. We have rear wheel drive version, so it may be the worst vehicle I've ever been in for snow, just an FYI... I learned that lesson, and will not drive it in the snow, at all.

Plenty of room in the back for a couple of bikes and golf clubs as well.
Yep my friend runs snow tires in winter. Hasn’t been an issue for him. And he has a place in Vermont that he goes to regularly year round. Do you stick with all seasons? If so that could be a factor?
 

roc

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Yep my friend runs snow tires in winter. Hasn’t been an issue for him. And he has a place in Vermont that he goes to regularly year round. Do you stick with all seasons? If so that could be a factor?
I'm not sure, probably the tires that came with the van. I really am impressed with the way it drives.
 

Ian F

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Modern snow tires really are wonders of technology. When I had my VW TDI and Cummins 4x4, I would run snow tires of them for the winter. The tires on the truck were Bridgestone W965 E-rated snow tires and seemed to defy the laws of physics. The way that 6000 lbs. (empty) truck could stop and turn on ice was simply remarkable.

4WD helps you "go"; but it's good tires that allow you to stop and turn.

That said, I run Goodyear Assurance all-seasons on the minivan. The current set have 62K miles on them and still perform well, although I plan to replace them in the Fall when annual inspection is due (I'm in PA). Especially since it looks like this NH gig may last for a while and possibly through the Winter. They tend to get a bit more snow up here in New England...

I've looked longingly at the Metris since it was introduced, but I'm not sure the few benefits are worth the significant cost premium. At least to me. My next minivan (assuming there is a "next one") will likely be a used Pacifica Hybrid E with the plug-in option. The "E" ability would be nice for a lot of my regular driving when at home, but it would still be able to do the long trips I do now where I don't have easy access to charging.
 

icebiker

JORBA: Morris Trails
JORBA.ORG
Modern snow tires really are wonders of technology. When I had my VW TDI and Cummins 4x4, I would run snow tires of them for the winter. The tires on the truck were Bridgestone W965 E-rated snow tires and seemed to defy the laws of physics. The way that 6000 lbs. (empty) truck could stop and turn on ice was simply remarkable.

4WD helps you "go"; but it's good tires that allow you to stop and turn.

That said, I run Goodyear Assurance all-seasons on the minivan. The current set have 62K miles on them and still perform well, although I plan to replace them in the Fall when annual inspection is due (I'm in PA). Especially since it looks like this NH gig may last for a while and possibly through the Winter. They tend to get a bit more snow up here in New England...

I've looked longingly at the Metris since it was introduced, but I'm not sure the few benefits are worth the significant cost premium. At least to me. My next minivan (assuming there is a "next one") will likely be a used Pacifica Hybrid E with the plug-in option. The "E" ability would be nice for a lot of my regular driving when at home, but it would still be able to do the long trips I do now where I don't have easy access to charging.
FWIW I rented a Pacifica Hybrid E last month when visiting my son in Seattle. It was super comfy and very responsive. Ride quality was excellent and we got about 30mpg with 70/30 city/highway driving. It was brand new (1,400 mi) so not sure how it would fare over the long term but initial impressions were good.
 

Ian F

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FWIW I rented a Pacifica Hybrid E last month when visiting my son in Seattle. It was super comfy and very responsive. Ride quality was excellent and we got about 30mpg with 70/30 city/highway driving. It was brand new (1,400 mi) so not sure how it would fare over the long term but initial impressions were good.
My general experience has been minivans are the one thing that Chrysler does well. I question longevity as well. My 2008 GC (bought used in 2013 w/ 75K miles) went about 10 years and 238K miles before the needling little issues became more that I wanted to deal with. That reliability (and the dead A/C) came to a head in July of 2018 when I got assigned to work in NH again. In general I was happy with the Chrysler product so when I was able to get a "friends and family" hook-up at a Chrysler dealership in South Jersey, I went there looking for a new Pacifica. Unfortunately, they didn't have any on the lot with Stow-n-go, but they did have a one year old ex-Enterprise rental GC GT with 17K miles. The price was reasonable and I drove it home that day. My one regret was not removing the hitch from the '08 since I ended up buying the same hitch for the 2017, but since my original plan was to buy a Pacifica (which uses a different hitch) I didn't know I needed to.

My 2017 currently has 125K on it, so I figure I have another 4 years until I need to think about replacing it. Resale value has already taken a big hit - literally - when the driver's door got smacked by a coyote on the Mass Turnpike a few months ago. There wasn't much I could do when it darted out from behind the car in the left lane in front of me, traveling at 72 MPH. I was able to swerve just enough to avoid hitting it with the front bumper - which probably would have done significant damage. I've thought about getting one of these decals, since in this case it was literally what happened:

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The difference being that the coyote did not peel itself off the side of the car and stagger away to chase the road runner again. :(
 

Rogers

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So im not a van life person.....just not something im interested in...But when I see these vans and see how expensive they are....I mean Transits are $60,000 for one that you wouldnt want to live in...I see fitted out ones selling for well over 100k....Just made me wonder why people arent interested in motorhomes. I mean you can get a REALLY nice used motorhome that you could park a sprinter inside of for 50k.
Simple reason and I have owned travel trailers. Size and convenience. We have a Winnebago Revel (Sprinter van) and when traveling we can stop where we want, whenever, and never have to worry about where am I going to park. It makes traveling in an RV way easier. I don’t have to worry about getting to a campsite, unhooking, and then go out and ride or hike. We can hit the trailhead between campsites first thing in the morning. Also we have everything with us at all times, which in shady places can be bad, but for the most part it’s awesome. Also they aren’t as expensive as the internet alludes to. You can buy a brand new Winnebago Revel for 140k not 200k. It’s not cheap but relative to a fully loaded premium SUV it’s reasonable.
 
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Rogers

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@Johnny Utah if you want a Sprinter look at the NCV3 2007-2018 models. They last a long time. They are pretty reliable if you go with a diesel motor and they get decent gas mileage. One problem with Sprinters is if you have a problem and need to get into a service center it could take months if on the road and MB Van Service Centers are usually located around major cities.
 
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Santapez

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My one regret was not removing the hitch from the '08 since I ended up buying the same hitch for the 2017, but since my original plan was to buy a Pacifica (which uses a different hitch) I didn't know I needed to.
If it's any consolation, if you took the hitch off you'd see it was so rusted you'd probably not want to put it on the new minivan.

I had a 1-1/4" Curt hitch on my car for about 5-6 years that I coated in rubberized 3M coating before I put it on as added protection. I swapped to a 2" TorkLift one last year and was amazed how crappy the one I took off looked. I was going to offer it up for free until I took it off.
 

Ian F

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If it's any consolation, if you took the hitch off you'd see it was so rusted you'd probably not want to put it on the new minivan.

I had a 1-1/4" Curt hitch on my car for about 5-6 years that I coated in rubberized 3M coating before I put it on as added protection. I swapped to a 2" TorkLift one last year and was amazed how crappy the one I took off looked. I was going to offer it up for free until I took it off.
It hadn't been on the van for too long, so it wasn't too rusty. Fortunately, it wasn't very expensive from e-Trailer, so I didn't cry about it. Now if it had been a Bosal hitch setup for my TDI, that would have been a different story.

I always tell folks - if a 2" receiver is available for your vehicle, spend the money the first time rather than buying the cheaper 1 1/4" version.
 

Eickelbt

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What it is homies.

Work has me all over the State, in both good and not so great areas. I am thinking of buying a van that I can keep the bikes in so I can fit a ride in during my travels. Thinking no windows out back - two seats - basic sheet.

Sleeping is not needed.

Fitting two full size MX bikes in it would also be a plus.

I like the RAM Promaster City, which was just discontinued - mileage and space are there, but is it worth it to go slightly bigger?

I drove a quad cab Diesel Ram for years and am now in a 14 Camry - the small car is a breathe of fresh air in the city, so I am thinking I want to stay small.

If gas mileage gets low (like piss Greta off low) I may just got back to a truck so I can tow a car trailer.

I have zero interest in electric as this vehicle will go across the country at least once a year.

Fitting my wife’s trike in it would also be good when she gets out of hand down at the VFW. The cops said I can’t put it on top of the Camry anymore.

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I drive a few company work vans and trucks- elevator mechanic for Otis (Local 138 proud!). We generally put 35k/year on vans.

The transit connect is small, and not great for taller drivers. The transit 1500 is quite nice but gas mileage is not great- 15.1 fully loaded. Drove a Chevy express for a while at a past job- feels like stepping back in time, but it did van stuff well at 15mpg again. The pro master line is so bad they actually might be a con- I believe one is on its 3rd transmission within the commercial warranty-70k mi. Never drove a sprinter or metros-serious coin, but they seem pretty nice.

I think you would be best served by a truck with a commercial cap. Keeps your shit separate, lockable bike storage, tows well, 4wd. I daily a tundra- fits two gang boxes with a bike on the Hitch in a pinch, and I don’t need to worry about snow tires on a RWD van. The new caps out there are really nice and weatherproof.

If sleeping inside isn’t an issue, a modern truck is a solid option, save for the lack of stick shift and the need for the cap. Mileage isn’t terrible with some of these fancy new 4cyl options. The other option is always a regular minivan- the toyota sienna is the best bike car I’ve ever known.
 

Eickelbt

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Also, worked with a few guys at my last job (worked in a big factory in Kingston NY) that came from the RV production world in Indiana and Ohio. According to them, Most RVs are designed for 33-38 nights out- after that, they begin to rattle apart. Buy wisely!
 

Johnny Utah

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I drive a few company work vans and trucks- elevator mechanic for Otis (Local 138 proud!). We generally put 35k/year on vans.

The transit connect is small, and not great for taller drivers. The transit 1500 is quite nice but gas mileage is not great- 15.1 fully loaded. Drove a Chevy express for a while at a past job- feels like stepping back in time, but it did van stuff well at 15mpg again. The pro master line is so bad they actually might be a con- I believe one is on its 3rd transmission within the commercial warranty-70k mi. Never drove a sprinter or metros-serious coin, but they seem pretty nice.

I think you would be best served by a truck with a commercial cap. Keeps your shit separate, lockable bike storage, tows well, 4wd. I daily a tundra- fits two gang boxes with a bike on the Hitch in a pinch, and I don’t need to worry about snow tires on a RWD van. The new caps out there are really nice and weatherproof.

If sleeping inside isn’t an issue, a modern truck is a solid option, save for the lack of stick shift and the need for the cap. Mileage isn’t terrible with some of these fancy new 4cyl options. The other option is always a regular minivan- the toyota sienna is the best bike car I’ve ever known.
Very solid advice - thank you!!
 

don

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It's my Birthday!
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Mitsubishi Delica


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Quigley / 4x4 Ambulance


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Isuzu NPR shortbox

These are definitely out there but fitting 2 dirt bikes should be able to be easy on the ambulance (with some gutting) or the NPR. But they will be about the size of a diesel Ram pickup. I saw a Quigley Ford Ambulance in Stowe, VT and was instantly in love - might have been the sound of the 7.3

The Delica would be on the smaller / more maneuverable side that you mentioned but don't think they are that big inside.

All pics were taken from FB Marketplace ads. Type any of those phrases in and expect to go into a deep worm hole lol
 

Ian F

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Ambulances are interesting... from the outside, it looks like one would be a great bike hauler. However, all of those external cabinets are integrated into the body and not easily removed, which really hampers the interior space more than one might expect. Buy one planning to do extensive modifications and renovation work.
 

iman29

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Ambulances are interesting... from the outside, it looks like one would be a great bike hauler. However, all of those external cabinets are integrated into the body and not easily removed, which really hampers the interior space more than one might expect. Buy one planning to do extensive modifications and renovation work.
agreed i had a friend that got an old ambulance to use as a contractor work truck. at first it seemed great with all the interior and exterior storage built in, but then he found it was really hard to transport stuff inside compared to a work van. and really challenging to get stuff up onto the roof (i.e. hauling 2x4s or plywood sheets.)
 

one piece crank

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Simple reason and I have owned travel trailers. Size and convenience. We have a Winnebago Revel (Sprinter van) and when traveling we can stop where we want, whenever, and never have to worry about where am I going to park. It makes traveling in an RV way easier. I don’t have to worry about getting to a campsite, unhooking, and then go out and ride or hike. We can hit the trailhead between campsites first thing in the morning. Also we have everything with us at all times, which in shady places can be bad, but for the most part it’s awesome. Also they aren’t as expensive as the internet alludes to. You can buy a brand new Winnebago Revel for 140k not 200k. It’s not cheap but relative to a fully loaded premium SUV it’s reasonable.
How has the Revel been holding up? Honest question, not criticism. I've never owned an RV, but have friends that do. I have also visited RV facilities I've sold components to. Both are not stellar reviews so I'm curious to your experience.
 
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