At what point will we stop using Garmin Edge devices and only using our phones?
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rlb
Well-Known Member
I disagree with point 1. They haven't kept up because there hasn't been a need until recently. Look at electric cars, the limiting factor in every single one is the battery. The tech will catch up!
rlb
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Pretty sure they tried this already
my 500 was 200 something and lasted me 5 years before it was crushed by a dump truck. How many of us have had the same cell phone for 5 years and it works the same at 5 years as it did when new?
Also, I need to get a new waterproof carrying case and mount every time I get a new phone
ChrisRU
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Some interesting agruments on both sides.
The other obstacle is phones being tied to carriers. They are only going to continue to find ways to stick it to consumers as more devices use their infrastructure. GPS devices don't need a data connection. Carriers want you consuming as much data as possible.
The other obstacle is phones being tied to carriers. They are only going to continue to find ways to stick it to consumers as more devices use their infrastructure. GPS devices don't need a data connection. Carriers want you consuming as much data as possible.
If I bust up my Garmin it will only cost about $100 for a replacement. If I bust up my iphone it will be about $600. I've washed my Garmin, twice, and it mostly still works, so I can say it's at least water resistant.
Pearl
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
okay, i was talking with kev-dawg and as i was exploring, what i thought of already exists; http://www.wahoofitness.com/wahoo-rflkt-iphone-powered-bike-computer.html
iphone records al lthe data, computer on bars shows you the stuff you need to know. why hasn't this taken off? Is it the unlimited data? no power support?
lets be honest, 75% of us dont ride over 2 hours anyway.
attn lou: you can control your music from this device too! omgzzzzz
iphone records al lthe data, computer on bars shows you the stuff you need to know. why hasn't this taken off? Is it the unlimited data? no power support?
lets be honest, 75% of us dont ride over 2 hours anyway.
attn lou: you can control your music from this device too! omgzzzzz
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gtluke
The Moped
Um, they have been working on an electric car on and off for over 100 years. Batteries suck, they always have, they always will. You can keep praying that "someone" will invent a better battery, but it's not likely to happen.
Batteries have to carry around 100% of their potential energy. something like a conventional car gets it's energy from the oxygen in the air. It's always there and you don't have to carry it. All you have to carry is the catalyst for it (fuel) and something to compress the oxygen before igniting it. (engine).
The space shuttle would be much more efficient if it could be powered by jet engines. But since there is no oxygen in space, they have to carry around all their fuel instead of the catalyst and use rockets and not jets. So like 90% of the space shuttle is fuel.
The real viable solution is a standard swap-able battery that you don't own. A capacitor large enough in the phone to keep the phone on for the 30 seconds it might take to swap a battery, and little stations where you can swap them out for $1
Same with cars, except a much bigger modular sized battery and the swap costs $30 and someone does it for you while you wait 5 minutes. SUV's get 2 batteries, UPS trucks get 4 batteries.
Charge at home if you please, but good luck keeping the power grid on when everyone in the world has an electric car. Nuke plants shutting down and crying hippies claiming wind and solar actually work. LED lights should offset home and commercial use by a ton, so maybe it won't be so bad.
kush
Active Member
The question is for which segment
This crowd will need specific equipment for a long time. Just like Luke needs his Nikon, as misguided as that is
General population, which is bigger than this crowd, will be ok with a smartphone, and the tech will get better and better. Just like taking pics with a smarthphon is getting better and better
My Galaxy S5 which is waterproof, shockproof, etc has a really dumb heart rate monitor that is useless. But an average guy doing the stairmaster in the gym will be just fine iwth it.
This crowd will need specific equipment for a long time. Just like Luke needs his Nikon, as misguided as that is
General population, which is bigger than this crowd, will be ok with a smartphone, and the tech will get better and better. Just like taking pics with a smarthphon is getting better and better
My Galaxy S5 which is waterproof, shockproof, etc has a really dumb heart rate monitor that is useless. But an average guy doing the stairmaster in the gym will be just fine iwth it.
soulchild
Well-Known Member
That would make sense. If the phone is in my pocket or camelbak how would I see my data fields though?
think we are a couple years away - the core of the phones will be wearable, with a choice of screens (glass, wrist, mountable)
power - piezoelectric charging will most likely be built into our clothes too. not to mention all the moving parts of a bike that could generate juice without slowing it down (fork, seat rails, flex in the stays)
power - piezoelectric charging will most likely be built into our clothes too. not to mention all the moving parts of a bike that could generate juice without slowing it down (fork, seat rails, flex in the stays)
Pearl
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
okay, i was talking with kev-dawg and as i was exploring, what i thought of already exists; http://www.wahoofitness.com/wahoo-rflkt-iphone-powered-bike-computer.html
iphone records al lthe data, computer on bars shows you the stuff you need to know. why hasn't this taken off? Is it the unlimited data? no power support?
lets be honest, 75% of us dont ride over 2 hours anyway.
attn lou: you can control your music from this device too! omgzzzzz
do you fools listen to music or just skim through it?
see? i'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
The problem is it cost at least $600 a year to use a moto G.
The question is for which segment
This crowd will need specific equipment for a long time. Just like Luke needs his Nikon, as misguided as that is
General population, which is bigger than this crowd, will be ok with a smartphone, and the tech will get better and better. Just like taking pics with a smarthphon is getting better and better
My Galaxy S5 which is waterproof, shockproof, etc has a really dumb heart rate monitor that is useless. But an average guy doing the stairmaster in the gym will be just fine iwth it.
^Yes, this. We need specific equipment, which means phone companies would have to make a phone too good for the general population...which in turn would cut into profits.
But I thought Apple already did that with the iphone?