35mm ID rims

qclabrat

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This sounds so 2020, but who's using 35mm ish rims today? My tires usually fall between 2.4 and 2.6 but I have a plus bike for wider rims and tires. So for non-plus 29rs and current tires, are 35s too wide? I'm also riding a SS with Velocity Dually (39mm ID) with SE5 2.6 and feel they are a good combo. Looking to relace a wheelset with 25mm ID which makes my tires too rounded in profile.
 
This sounds so 2020, but who's using 35mm ish rims today? My tires usually fall between 2.4 and 2.6 but I have a plus bike for wider rims and tires. So for non-plus 29rs and current tires, are 35s too wide? I'm also riding a SS with Velocity Dually (39mm ID) with SE5 2.6 and feel they are a good combo. Looking to relace a wheelset with 25mm ID which makes my tires too rounded in profile.
Funny because I've been wanting to do exactly the opposite on my trail version El Mar with WTB KOM Asym i35 with 2.6 Rekons and move to a i27 and use smaller tire. I secured the rims, no longer being produced, but never got to it.
 
Funny because I've been wanting to do exactly the opposite on my trail version El Mar with WTB KOM Asym i35 with 2.6 Rekons and move to a i27 and use smaller tire. I secured the rims, no longer being produced, but never got to it.
Are your Rekons WT as gmb3 mentioned? I have KOM i29 with 2.5 DHFs nonWT and they seem spot on being that they're never true to size.
 
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All Ibis Ripmos come with 35ID wheels so that's what I ended up with.

35ID on my front. I had 35ID on my rear but swapped out to 31ID as I wanted a higher engagement hub and I'm cheap. I run the popular for here Assegai2.5WT/DHRII2.4WT

Hard to compare but the profile is more rounded than the similar DHF/DHR combo I run on skinny Stan's Arch rims on my other bike. Definitely more traction with the wider rims.

I also feel no need to have inserts like I did on the other bike. I get some rim contact on fast/hard stuff in the rear but that is only 31mm and it's never as bad as my other bike with the skinny Arches and same sized tire. So hard to say 35ID is the definite way there but no way I'd go back under 30mm

If you really wanted to just try it you could probably find a set of used cheap OEM wheels.
 
I run a 35mm rim on my gravel bike with a 29x2.8 - they balloon pretty good. I could go narrower if I wanted, not sure I would go below a 2.4.
 
Are your Rekons WT as gmb3 mentioned? I have KOM i29 with 2.5 DHFs nonWT and they seem spot on being that they're never true to size.
If I remember correctly at some point all 2.5+ Maxxis tires were WT, even if not officially designated as such. BTW, the DHRII/DHF on my Knolly are 2.6 on i30 rims and do just fine, not sure if it's an apple to apple comparison as they're on a full suspension bike as opposed to the El Mar with i35 rims.
 
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All Ibis Ripmos come with 35ID wheels so that's what I ended up with.

35ID on my front. I had 35ID on my rear but swapped out to 31ID as I wanted a higher engagement hub and I'm cheap. I run the popular for here Assegai2.5WT/DHRII2.4WT

Hard to compare but the profile is more rounded than the similar DHF/DHR combo I run on skinny Stan's Arch rims on my other bike. Definitely more traction with the wider rims.

I also feel no need to have inserts like I did on the other bike. I get some rim contact on fast/hard stuff in the rear but that is only 31mm and it's never as bad as my other bike with the skinny Arches and same sized tire. So hard to say 35ID is the definite way there but no way I'd go back under 30mm

If you really wanted to just try it you could probably find a set of used cheap OEM wheels.
Yeah, I'm starting to weed down my wheel sets and getting rid of some arches and crests. Also cheap as well and I really like rebuilding wheels to past the time. Baron S1 are available for under $100 for a pair with shipping so going to give them a shot as 35s appear to be around.
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I do think there's a sweet spot of ID. For me I prefer 30-32mm...but I only run 2.35-2.5" tires, I may feel differently if I was running 2.6"+.

It's pretty interesting the majority of WC DH racers run 25mm with no inserts. Not super useful for us mortals, but something consider.
 
My Pivot T429 with DT Swiss 30mm internal running new Forekaster/Rekon 2.4s. Wood run a 2.6 up front.
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Scalpel SS with Arch MK3 26mm internal currently running Rekon 2.6/2.4 combo. Will be switching front to Forekaster 2.4 as above.
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Rigid SS is OG Forekaster 2.6/2.35 combo on Flow EX (25.5internal). 17psi frt/21psi rr. Haven't died.
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I do think there's a sweet spot of ID. For me I prefer 30-32mm...but I only run 2.35-2.5" tires, I may feel differently if I was running 2.6"+.

It's pretty interesting the majority of WC DH racers run 25mm with no inserts. Not super useful for us mortals, but something consider.
I feel like we need to stop looking at what WC racers do. They ride shit way differently than most of us, and do it with full DH casings and someone to rebuild their wheels at the bottom.

That being said, I'll can probably ask some WC downhill racers their opinion what us mere mortals should do. They'll probably tell me to ride DT-Swiss 25mm ID rims...
 
I feel like we need to stop looking at what WC racers do. They ride shit way differently than most of us, and do it with full DH casings and someone to rebuild their wheels at the bottom.

That being said, I'll can probably ask some WC downhill racers their opinion what us mere mortals should do. They'll probably tell me to ride DT-Swiss 25mm ID rims...

Certainly wasn't advocating for running that narrow, but I think if you look at the "why" they run those rims it can give you some insight into this discussion. Depending on how much you lean your bike, you may run out of side knobs if you run wide rims.

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Certainly wasn't advocating for running that narrow, but I think if you look at the "why" they run those rims it can give you some insight into this discussion. Depending on how much you lean your bike, you may run out of side knobs if you run wide rims.

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Yeap. But also depends on the design of the tire. For instance the MAXXIS tires being designed around wider rims for the WT type, 30-35mm. Obviously 30 and 35 are two extremes of what they say they work properly for.
 
Certainly wasn't advocating for running that narrow, but I think if you look at the "why" they run those rims it can give you some insight into this discussion. Depending on how much you lean your bike, you may run out of side knobs if you run wide rims.

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That's the reason I think Maxxis undersize all their tires. Their outside knobs are consistently aggressive and have little transition. So if someone swaps out their Schwalbes for similar advertised sized Maxxis it would be more squared. Rounded Maxxis tires have been problematic for me especially in the rears pushing through corners. I just feel that split second of no grip before they catch the outside knobs. I'm sure it's me and my slow riding as plenty pros are using Maxxis with narrowish rims. I'm working on down sizing so, just trying to find an optimal setup before I yard sale the rest.
 
Good read from some of the major tire companies on rounded vs squared tire profiles.
Schwalbe nailed it,

The difference in a rounded/squared profile will more likely result in a different feeling so that it comes down to personal preference.”

I always laughed when I read all the tire/rim, don’t do it, fear mongering. I like what I like and have pushed the limits of conventional tire/rim pairing to get there.
 
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