The DIY thread - DIYourself
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serviceguy
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Was there ever a wax ring? It looks like whatever seal you had may have been installed incorrectly and progressively worsen to the point of leaking more and more over time. And that is my professional IT opinion...
rlb
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Yeah there was a ring. I think the problem is this:
Flange is 1/4 below floor on the left side, and 1/4 above on the right. I think 1/2 across the flange is a bit too much.
I have it together with the waxless seal @Patrick linked, but this is only a temporary solution. You need to use a spacer if the flange is below floor, and no spacer if it's above. I put it in w/o spacer because the toilet rocked with it. While it's curei not leaking, I do not have high confidence in this long-term.
is that a 60 or an 80 gallon? im still procrastinating on putting the plumbing into my garage, i have a 50ft spring retracting hose real (1/2) that drives my tools as needed just fine so laziness has won out so far(almost 3 years later)
ekuhn
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Can cut old flange out from inside and put in one of those insert flanges. May have to spend some time chipping back the tile tho.
DANCO HydroSeat Stainless Steel Toilet Flange Repair 10672X - The Home Depot
The HydroSeat offers an easy, one-piece installation that fixes wobbly or leaking toilets, and broken or damaged flanges. Installed together with a wax ring, the HydroSeat technology ensures a tight, leak-free seal and features a self-centering rubber funnel that fits any toilet or closet...
www.homedepot.com
iman29
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my insomnia is kicking in so since I experienced this same thing before I will try to tell you what saved me from this.
same basic issue but my downstairs bathroom is on a slab so it was just occasionally leaking into the floor and under the vinyl tiles. The old flange wasn’t level and when I took the toilet out I figured out it was because the toilet would slightly move and sometimes leak water under the seal. When I went to fix the flange it was and old school lead sealed one and the lead seal broke off. Plus around the flange there was a big gap of missing concrete almost like this had been repaired before I bought it.
I got lucky the local plumbing supply was open (on a Sunday! ) and when I called he said come down now he would wait. He sold me one of these which has hex nuts inside that expand the rubber ring and gets inserted into the pipe. Then I had to level the floor and backfill with hydraulic cement and let it set. But this also let me set it level with the floor so no ships needed and I used a regular XL wax ring just in case.
You may not need that step if it’s temporary but you might need to chip out some tile and mud around the old one to get it out.
same basic issue but my downstairs bathroom is on a slab so it was just occasionally leaking into the floor and under the vinyl tiles. The old flange wasn’t level and when I took the toilet out I figured out it was because the toilet would slightly move and sometimes leak water under the seal. When I went to fix the flange it was and old school lead sealed one and the lead seal broke off. Plus around the flange there was a big gap of missing concrete almost like this had been repaired before I bought it.
I got lucky the local plumbing supply was open (on a Sunday! ) and when I called he said come down now he would wait. He sold me one of these which has hex nuts inside that expand the rubber ring and gets inserted into the pipe. Then I had to level the floor and backfill with hydraulic cement and let it set. But this also let me set it level with the floor so no ships needed and I used a regular XL wax ring just in case.
You may not need that step if it’s temporary but you might need to chip out some tile and mud around the old one to get it out.
jklett
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60. I really have to do some sort of plumbing, even if it's just tacking up hoses and teeing them off for drops because I'm tired of pulling a hose and knocking shit over or tripping over it. I could probably get away with a reel if I actually took the time to clean and organize the place but where's the fun in that?
ekuhn
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Exactly.
ekuhn
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My buddy used this for his setup along with some harbor freight reels. I think I’m going to do the same.
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Karate Monkey
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My buddy used this for his setup along with some harbor freight reels. I think I’m going to do the same.
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Pipe is surprisingly cheap, even from Grainger (which means you can definitely get it cheaper).
BTW, depending on the weight of your tools/height of the ceiling, choosing the right coiled hose could absolutely suffice. Can't see your manifold, but get a condenser on there, too, if you don't have one already
Strugglebus
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I put this together a couple weeks ago
Yes there is a ~5 inch QP base and 6 pieces of 20” long rebar holding it in place.
getting ready for install day. I did not do this myself, however I played apprentice/ tool bitch for a friend of mine. Happy to have A/C again.
Yes there is a ~5 inch QP base and 6 pieces of 20” long rebar holding it in place.
getting ready for install day. I did not do this myself, however I played apprentice/ tool bitch for a friend of mine. Happy to have A/C again.
Some days all you need is a small victory.
Screens on the kitchen window were shot. Previous resident had a big dog, and apparently she left the window open.
As such, holy screens, and we haven’t opened this window since we moved in.
Mrs Manic puts it on my radar, no problem. Rescreened a few in my day.
Today I decided to surprise her with this while she was on a training call.
Started with a thorough cleaning- sorely needed.
Just minting MTBUs here.
Wait a tick- that’s not spline!
Looked like it was crimped, and not serviceable.
Off to the Andersen site to see how much replacements are-
Holy crap- $180 for TruScene.
F that. That’s half the cost of a whole window.
YouTube to the rescue.
It can be done. Just pull out the channels.
Didn’t have the right size spline, so off to Homies. It calls for .225”, but .220” will have to do. (.220, .221, whatever it takes).
I have always done these in a continuous run of spline, but internet pro tip: do top and bottom first to get even tension, then the sides.
Didn’t have pony clamps, but we got chip clips out the wazoo.
Victory
Screens on the kitchen window were shot. Previous resident had a big dog, and apparently she left the window open.
As such, holy screens, and we haven’t opened this window since we moved in.
Mrs Manic puts it on my radar, no problem. Rescreened a few in my day.
Today I decided to surprise her with this while she was on a training call.
Started with a thorough cleaning- sorely needed.
Just minting MTBUs here.
Wait a tick- that’s not spline!
Looked like it was crimped, and not serviceable.
Off to the Andersen site to see how much replacements are-
Holy crap- $180 for TruScene.
F that. That’s half the cost of a whole window.
YouTube to the rescue.
It can be done. Just pull out the channels.
Didn’t have the right size spline, so off to Homies. It calls for .225”, but .220” will have to do. (.220, .221, whatever it takes).
I have always done these in a continuous run of spline, but internet pro tip: do top and bottom first to get even tension, then the sides.
Didn’t have pony clamps, but we got chip clips out the wazoo.
Victory
Also this weekend was cleaning up the Grillzebo.
House came with a hottub, but we aren’t hottub folks.
Do love me some grilling though.
When we moved in, I Sawzalled the tub into quarters, and into a dumpster.
Now covered grilling year round:
L to R: propane, Weber Smoky Mt, Weber kettle.
It becomes a catchall, and then you gotta move 8 things to roll out the grill.
Not now though
On the to do list: outdoor speakers with inline volume control.
Aw f yeah
House came with a hottub, but we aren’t hottub folks.
Do love me some grilling though.
When we moved in, I Sawzalled the tub into quarters, and into a dumpster.
Now covered grilling year round:
L to R: propane, Weber Smoky Mt, Weber kettle.
It becomes a catchall, and then you gotta move 8 things to roll out the grill.
Not now though
On the to do list: outdoor speakers with inline volume control.
Aw f yeah
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serviceguy
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Do you belong to the split log siding tribe/brotherhood as well? Have you ever had to replace any boards and if so had any luck in finding some of the right size? My siding is two different types of split log (I suspect because they could not find the right boards when they added the front extension to the original building) and I could not find either...
Yes- I hope you have proper construction under yours (ours are nailed to the studs- no plywood, no vapor barrier- lol).
Haven’t had difficulty finding them though. Northeast building supply in Andover I think?
rlb
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@ekuhn I have one of those,
Considering this, but I'm not confident the subfloor will hold a new flange property at this point especially without the thinset. I also picked up that kit, but not too confident since the instructions are confusing and I dont see how it will seal to the existing pipe.
I did see a few videos showing that adapter, but as I understand it you're not supposed to use any expanding type seals in lead since it's so soft. Also still have the subfloor problem. If I pull the floor I will have someone come and replace the lead with PVC.
Can cut old flange out from inside and put in one of those insert flanges. May have to spend some time chipping back the tile tho.
DANCO HydroSeat Stainless Steel Toilet Flange Repair 10672X - The Home Depot
The HydroSeat offers an easy, one-piece installation that fixes wobbly or leaking toilets, and broken or damaged flanges. Installed together with a wax ring, the HydroSeat technology ensures a tight, leak-free seal and features a self-centering rubber funnel that fits any toilet or closet...www.homedepot.com
Considering this, but I'm not confident the subfloor will hold a new flange property at this point especially without the thinset. I also picked up that kit, but not too confident since the instructions are confusing and I dont see how it will seal to the existing pipe.
I did see a few videos showing that adapter, but as I understand it you're not supposed to use any expanding type seals in lead since it's so soft. Also still have the subfloor problem. If I pull the floor I will have someone come and replace the lead with PVC.
iman29
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Subfloor problem true. Just figured to get it back running that could be an interim solution.
I had the plumbing store recommend that to me and I brought him detailed pictures at his request and he was so cool to make sure I was doing it right. He didn’t mention anything about the lead when I explained the old flange came loose but like you said it’s more of an issue with space down below and you need to be confident it will hold. Good luck.
It’s on my radar for sure, and I got a new stack of oak....
iman29
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I have had this grill since 2003 and the only thing I have ever really had to replace are these “flavorizer” bars which only last a few years. I Also only changed the gas tubes and burners about 2 years ago. This thing might not be the biggest grill but it’s old reliable.
Semi annual clean out and scrape down As we use this thing all year round I don’t even ever cover it.
crossed this off the Honey do list and got rewarded with time to ride this afternoon before dinner.
Semi annual clean out and scrape down As we use this thing all year round I don’t even ever cover it.
crossed this off the Honey do list and got rewarded with time to ride this afternoon before dinner.