This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond
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phillychris498
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I’m sure @Patrick can smell, unless he has coronavirus of course....
I’m sure there is a hidden message in there, so I fed it into the anagram solver.
lampless t
great. Norm says I have no light to guide me. I am broken.
mfennell
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I've been riding with my friends a few times a week for a month. Primarily with 4 other guys who are very local to me, occasionally with our normal-times crew that includes 5 or 6 others. They are the only non-family members I interact with. We always draft. Because fast.
AFAIK, the pilot in the group and Dave Taylor (who I've only ridden with a handful of times) are the only ones actually physically going to work. The risk seems reasonable.
Mahnken
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I've only ridden with a couple guys from work. They're so slow that I'm never not leading, lol.
You can see them behind me in this picture:
There was a group of at least 20 at white clay yesterday, not a mask to be seen. That I don't understand.
Monkey Soup
Angry Wanker
All I saw (because I’m not going back through this entire thread) is a National Geographic study and a Columbia study that wasn’t peer reviewed. My examples of over counting are purely anecdotal, through personal 1st hand experience (not the internet), and over 30yrs in the pharma biz. Oh, I also used to be a virologist, so listening to a lot of the bullshit here is especially painful. During normal times, most diseases are undercounted. During a normal flu season, do you think every person who’s sick goes to the Dr to be counted? Do you think every death is counted? I have personal examples there also, but since it’s not linked to some online study, they don’t count. In the corona world though, everyone with a sniffle goes to get that super accurate (sarcasm) antibody test. Nothing about corona that you find or read is accurate or non-biased anymore. The media has a vested interest to overhype this, politicians have politicized it, and if you bother to dig deep enough to find the real science, much of it is inconclusive because it’s still early days. Like every other thing in this new enlightened age of information, you’ll find something online that supports your personal position, right or wrong. Have fun believing everything.
Like unicorns? Can I believe in unicorns?
rustynuts
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Nope, their extinct due to COVID.
serviceguy
Well-Known Member
It's increasingly difficult to make sense of all these numbers, probably not a coincidence. More tests, more positive, more hospitalizations (I hear that this count on the rise includes hospitalization for 'elective' procedure where they have been resumed, hard fact to support this anyone) and less or flat deaths (I also hear that doctors are forced to report as COVID-19 all deaths of positive patients regardless actual cause of death, again I'd like some hard facts to back up this)?
What I know for a fact is that Italy's P.M. wants to extend emergency status up to the end of the year while there are a total of 66 ICU patients in the whole country (source=my mom). Not sure what originated this thing, but sure as hell everyone is trying to milk the hell of their political agenda out of it! What a disgrace.
What I know for a fact is that Italy's P.M. wants to extend emergency status up to the end of the year while there are a total of 66 ICU patients in the whole country (source=my mom). Not sure what originated this thing, but sure as hell everyone is trying to milk the hell of their political agenda out of it! What a disgrace.
bergsnj
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1% of the entire population? Shouldn't it be 1% of the infected? If so, these numbers are way off.
Monkey Soup
Angry Wanker
Yes, because they exist:
The strokes, muscle weakness, loss of cognative function is purely supposition, with no scientific link to the virus of mechanism of action.
thegock
Well-Known Member
According to their data, the COVID-19 infection-fatality rate is 1.46 percent
From #4,842 above^^^^^^^^^^^
If 55%-80% of the population is infected and the midpoint of that range is used the product is 0.98%.
thegock
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Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.
www.cdc.gov
Here is the second study that @mfennell had posted above.
I discussed this at the time with Dr. Joe, (microbiology) and he agreed that the information inferred that the death count was understated.
What is your PhD in @Monkey Soup ?
Monkey Soup
Angry Wanker
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.
Here is the second study that @mfennell had posted above.
I discussed this at the time with Dr. Joe, (microbiology) and he agreed that the information inferred that the death count was understated.
What is your PhD in @Monkey Soup ?
Biochemistry with an emphasis on Microbiology. What, am I defending a thesis here?
mfennell
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That's just flat out false. A lot of people died at home and untested, especially at the height of things when tests were not available. A heard an interview with an EMT in NYC who coded THIRTEEN at home people in one double shift. He admitted he was relieved that one of them was a suicide because that was so much less stressful.
Look at the link @thegock posted. Deaths over time are surprisingly consistent year to year, as I'm sure you're aware. The past few months, a lot more people have been dying than expected. That number is greater than the official COVID death count. So either a lot more people than normal are dying from other causes in the past few months OR COVID deaths are undercounted. I know where I'm putting my money.
. Source.