OOS MOGA

Magic said:
But he doesn’t race.🙄
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Truth with bike races, but I've done over 100 running races to know how to run my race and the position myself. Positioning even more so for bike races as Vic and Frank have noted. Here's the dilemma for a lot of new racers, you want to start in the back so you are not that guy who holds the fast guys back. Never sit in the back, take the second row and you will know in a quarter mile if the pace is too fast for the day. Let the faster guys pass early then ride your race. Waiting too long could blow you too fast. Sitting in the back can be frustrating and usually leads to having too much left in the tank. One of my coaches said if you don't free like dying after a race, you didn't put down enough effort. I got nothing else to contribute for racing otherwise
 
Victor I said:
@Mtbdog will need to provide his riding impression. He raced a Chameleon and looked like he was having fun.
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It was a very forgiving ride. The extra weight and sacker geometry made for a stable ride that didn,'t bounce around under me as much as the Ritchey. Loved the 34 Fox forks and the gearing is much more where I want it. (Eagle 46) If I had more time I would have put skinnier tires on as the 2.4/2.5 combo held a lot of mud, I had to do bunny hops to clear the knobbies on several occasions. Would definitely do another race on the bike, and at HM and the Tourne the bikes rips! Back story: Did a little electric at his house and he offered his bikes up as a bonus! His other bike is a full squish Ibis, and man does that thing shred! Really lightweight and nimble. Can't wait for the rain to stop! Wanna ride!
 
Mtbdog said:
It was a very forgiving ride. The extra weight and sacker geometry made for a stable ride that didn,'t bounce around under me as much as the Ritchey. Loved the 34 Fox forks and the gearing is much more where I want it. (Eagle 46) If I had more time I would have put skinnier tires on as the 2.4/2.5 combo held a lot of mud, I had to do bunny hops to clear the knobbies on several occasions. Would definitely do another race on the bike, and at HM and the Tourne the bikes rips! Back story: Did a little electric at his house and he offered his bikes up as a bonus! His other bike is a full squish Ibis, and man does that thing shred! Really lightweight and nimble. Can't wait for the rain to stop! Wanna ride!
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So the bike is yours now? Wow... congrats!
What wheels are on it? Its a 27.5? If it is... wondering if the WTB i23 would be the better option...
 
qclabrat said:
Truth with bike races, but I've done over 100 running races to know how to run my race and the position myself. Positioning even more so for bike races as Vic and Frank have noted. Here's the dilemma for a lot of new racers, you want to start in the back so you are not that guy who holds the fast guys back. Never sit in the back, take the second row and you will know in a quarter mile if the pace is too fast for the day. Let the faster guys pass early then ride your race. Waiting too long could blow you too fast. Sitting in the back can be frustrating and usually leads to having too much left in the tank. One of my coaches said if you don't free like dying after a race, you didn't put down enough effort. I got nothing else to contribute for racing otherwise
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The course opened up to a fire road at the end and I finally got to stretch my legs and opened up for a sprint to the finish. Most of my energy was waisted trying to move through various positions. I agree with your take on it. I also believe in getting out of the way of someone that is faster than me. There were many athletes that entered this race. The fitness levels of some of the racers gave the appearance of being top notch, like a pro athlete(can’t say for sure, simply appearance). While I’m in fairly good shape for my age, I am not an athlete(no false modesty, it’s just the truth). I would like to try the same set of circumstances on a much more technical course and see how it turns out. Still glad I did the race. Stewart is a fun course and it was exciting.
 
Paul H said:
Prolly a more funner bike but I am thinking he would have been faster on the Ritchey
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With skinnier tires and a little more saddle time it could be close. The SC is a much more comfortable to ride for a long time. Believe me I had a sh*t eating grin the whole time! The Ritchey is faster no doubt. I have to do a little gearing shuffle to get the Ritchey where I think I need it. 11-46 would be good .but I need to check with you guys what cassette I can put on the rear. I'm no techy, as stated before I know how to ride 'em, not much what makes 'em go!
 
jordanrhodes said:
Great time guys! Awesome job by all! - have a wonderful Mothers Day!
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Glad they straightened out you position in the race. Thank goodness for Strava as it showed when you finished. I think you were 28 seconds ahead of me so we were a little closer in time for this race. Would you like to share a race recap?
 
Paul H said:
So the bike is yours now? Wow... congrats!
What wheels are on it? Its a 27.5? If it is... wondering if the WTB i23 would be the better option...
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No, not mine but can use any time. Al rode with some of OOS at Wayway, so you may have met him, he's a little more into golf but will do the occasional race. 29's are on it, came with 27.5's but he didn't like the ride at the local spots,HM,Tourne,Ringwood. I like the Renthal bars he uses and he has them cut really short,so going thru trees wasn't ever a worry about smashing a knuckle. If I bring another bike home I'll be living in a van down by the river!! LOL
 
Mtbdog said:
With skinnier tires and a little more saddle time it could be close. The SC is a much more comfortable to ride for a long time. Believe me I had a sh*t eating grin the whole time! The Ritchey is faster no doubt. I have to do a little gearing shuffle to get the Ritchey where I think I need it. 11-46 would be good .but I need to check with you guys what cassette I can put on the rear. I'm no techy, as stated before I know how to ride 'em, not much what makes 'em go!
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Wider tires and the slacker geo would make the SC more comfortable IMO.

Your Ritchey has a full XT 11spd group set?
Not sure I would change that unless you want to blow a boat load of cash.
 
Mtbdog said:
No, not mine but can use any time. Al rode with some of OOS at Wayway, so you may have met him, he's a little more into golf but will do the occasional race. 29's are on it, came with 27.5's but he didn't like the ride at the local spots,HM,Tourne,Ringwood. I like the Renthal bars he uses and he has them cut really short,so going thru trees wasn't ever a worry about smashing a knuckle.
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Yes... I definitely remember Al. I thought he said his name was Hal.... I think I called him Hal all day. lol
 
Paul H said:
Wider tires and the slacker geo would make the SC more comfortable IMO.

Your Ritchey has a full XT 11spd group set?
Not sure I would change that unless you want to blow a boat load of cash.
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I would like to just change the cassette to a wider selection.
The SC is much more comfy as is. But for racing the skinny tires would roll a lot better.
 
Mtbdog said:
I would like to just change the cassette to a wider selection.
The SC is much more comfy as is. But for racing the skinny tires would roll a lot better.
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Let's put the Ritchey on a stand and take a closer look at it one of these days and brain storm together to see what options are available.
 
Mtbdog said:
I would like to just change the cassette to a wider selection.
The SC is much more comfy as is. But for racing the skinny tires would roll a lot better.
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I am always impressed how you can ride the Ritchey anywhere in the state as it’s such an aggressive cross country bike and is the opposite of what people typically use in north NJ.
 
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