Considering you would hike for the entire 24 hours, 1 day
Going Long and Hard.
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johnbryanpeters
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What's the elevation profile?
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
IDK. After my last adventure, it will feel very flat.
Much of the NJ stretch of the AT has some elevation gain and is pretty rocky. I think two days with a full pack is a stretch. Most AT through hikers are doing 15 miles per day on a big day. It really depends on two things. The weight of your pack and if you hike alot. Cycling muscles are not hiking muscles and carying a pack is not insignificant. Just my $0.02 from 30 years of backpacking.
Kaleidopete
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what I've hiked is pretty easy going, there are a few tough spots, but basically it's smooth salin'
Steve Vai
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I'm curious to test my "pushing a loaded fat bike through snow" muscle groups. While I've done very little hiking, I've pushed my bike for 20+ hours without ever doing it prior. I don't know if there's any crossover, but I'd like to have some miles in me before February.
I guess I'll just start at the beginning and see how far I get?
Cool! Give it a go! Good luck!!! The fastest, self supported time is 22h 41m. That is a trail run with a minimal pack and few stops. You will have a whole extra day to play with. People say the NJ section is easy but that is compared to NY and PA which are much harder. I think the NJ section is still challenging with about 100 ft per mile of vert. If you are hiking with a 30lb pack, it is a workout. Mazeltov!
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NJ Appalachian Trail (NJ)
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I hiked from High Point to the Water Gap in 3 days but that was in like 1990. 😂
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Cool! Give it a go! Good luck!!! The fastest, self supported time is 22h 41m. That is a trail run with a minimal pack and few stops. You will have a whole extra day to play with. People say the NJ section is easy but that is compared to NY and PA which are much harder. I think the NJ section is still challenging with about 100 ft per mile of vert. If you are hiking with a 30lb pack, it is a workout. Mazeltov!
NJ Appalachian Trail (NJ)
23 hours is the FKT? Then it'll take me 2 full days at least. I'm not running at all, anywhere. It also seems like I'd have to do a light set-up and possibly shiver bivy for a few hours at some point. Although during a bikepacking ride I slept in the Pavillion at High Point near the entrance. That's like 45 miles I think. Seems far. I don't think I'd make it there in a single push. Actually, I don't think I'd make it there in 2 days...🤣😂
I am telling you, the NJ section is hard. But push yourself and see how far you can go. If you want to suffer then go light and full gas. But I think that is super light with little to no sleep. If you want to enjoy it; 3-4 days is reasonable and still a challenge.
At 4 days, it is 18.5 miles per day. Does not sound like much until you are in the thick of the hike.
At 4 days, it is 18.5 miles per day. Does not sound like much until you are in the thick of the hike.
bigW
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Seems extra not fun.
Feet will be very unhappy, need to be on blister patrol. Shoulders will hurt where the backpack straps make contact ( unless you go super-light ) Small little muscles in calf/knee that don’t get worked out biking will be screaming.
Maybe do an epic one-day 12 hour blast with good elevation but near zero kit. That will get the bike pushing workout done.
wpf
The Kalmyk
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You can do it no problem just because of the mental game. Walk into the night as long as possible, crash where you are then be Audi when the sun wakes you up.
I did it in high school and it took us 3.5 days.
I did it in high school and it took us 3.5 days.
The Kalmyk
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Jim will eventually do the entire AT.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Things I'm getting from this is, I need to just do it. While I was originally thinking 2x35 mile days, I may need to be open to not covering that distance. I'm fine with whichever it is, I just need to do a couple long days.
My cousin is a retired Marine and now spends all of his time going back and forth on the AT. He's been doing it for years and years at this point and has done everything from a tour, to trying to FKT to going with no gear and subsistence hiking. Which is what he's doing now.
He's been helping my co-worker Max train for his thru hike in April so I've gotten some good Intel.
I'm using gear I already own so my kit may be heavy, but I think under 20 pounds for an overnight. Helium Bivy, bag liner, foam big agnes pad, micro stove, poofy outfit, trailshot filter, couple packs of oatmeal and spare socks? I'm ok with being cold if the temp drops. If it's this warm out I'd use my SOL bivy even.
My cousin is a retired Marine and now spends all of his time going back and forth on the AT. He's been doing it for years and years at this point and has done everything from a tour, to trying to FKT to going with no gear and subsistence hiking. Which is what he's doing now.
He's been helping my co-worker Max train for his thru hike in April so I've gotten some good Intel.
I'm using gear I already own so my kit may be heavy, but I think under 20 pounds for an overnight. Helium Bivy, bag liner, foam big agnes pad, micro stove, poofy outfit, trailshot filter, couple packs of oatmeal and spare socks? I'm ok with being cold if the temp drops. If it's this warm out I'd use my SOL bivy even.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
After the ITI, anything I do would require quiting my job and getting a Divorce. Except Tour Divide or Trans Am. David has been begging me to do Trans Am with him. He registered this year but it was of course cancelled.
thegock
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I did 22 miles for two days= 44 miles to Sunfish Pond when I was 25 and in pretty good shape. My plan was to cover the 44 in three days. I could have done more, but got bored walking all day. That was in late August, when the days were longer.
Doing the whole NJ portion in two days seems like a stretch. As mentioned above, there is quite a bit of verticality. What will be screaming in pain after a two day max effort will be the muscles in the front of your legs above the knees that you use to control your speed on the downhills.
Don't hike any of it in the dark-too many rough rocks in spots.
Doing the whole NJ portion in two days seems like a stretch. As mentioned above, there is quite a bit of verticality. What will be screaming in pain after a two day max effort will be the muscles in the front of your legs above the knees that you use to control your speed on the downhills.
Don't hike any of it in the dark-too many rough rocks in spots.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
So that was in like 1908? They have rubber soled shoes now so it might be easier going. We also have LED lights now, marked improvement over candle light 🤣🤣
serviceguy
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As your senior (in age only obviously) I find your ageist sarcasm offensive, having met @thegock multiple times I’m confident he used a carbide light, candles were for amateurs!
thegock
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Whale oil, you phat bitches...jk...kinda
