well ben, i did just do a race so this was my recovery day, it was super hot and my left knee hurt really bad so i was kind of taking it easy and it also didn't help that i had cross tires on and was really rough and i also felt really sick the whole day before and i also only had a greek salad with NO salad dressing so i know my energy level was really low as well as my electrolytes so i'll give it a real go one day this time was totally just a BS time to see what is possible because i'm sure i could crush kevins time if i actually tried but who really cares i ride a mountain bike in the woods i also dont shave my legs so maybe that has something to do with it because i bet if i shaved my legs i could easily be in the tour de france and probably even train with tommyd