If you all check trek’s website today, you will see Trek’s new Full Stache 8 full suspension 29 plus trail shredder. With 130mm of travel, super short chain stays, and Abp suspension, the new Full Stache is a force to be reckoned with. Got my hands on a full size run of em and beginning to play. Pictures shown are of the 19.5 and weighs in at a respectable 33 lbs. come check em out