Rothrock TrailMix - Canceled
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Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Maybe Deejay Birtch has the right idea with the Erie events? They involve the whole town and run the party on main street.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Yeah. There's probably also an increase in Brevet participation from Disease ride folks. Pay $35 for a no frills 200k or raise thousands of dollars on top of a multi hundred dollar entry fee for some disease no one will ever cure? Seems like a no brainer to me. Hence, increase in participation.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Except like 10 people showed up to that Poker thing.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Talking about erie mtb festival/race. Unfortunately tempo seems like the new race pace.
Sven Migot
Well-Known Member
That poker thing (Snowball's Chance) was really fun and very different. A huge party. Cash payout for 1/2/3 was something like $400+/$300+/$200+ and anyone that hit the checkpoints could win.
Not sure what the turnout was but I would guess at least 100+. Not bad for March. Will go again for sure...
i was discussing this with the tri organizer - urban tri with a lap race, more spectator friendly.
get some food trucks, entertainment, etc.
harder for mtb, but maybe not impossible. I like the idea that Ryan is using for the mooch race, come through/near
the staging area a couple times per lap.
Also thought Lance and the group out of Pure Energy did a great job with HippoCross a couple years back
with the food, band, kids' course... Fun atmosphere. "come watch a bike race, don't cost nothing" would have worked there.
but how many people are actually interested in doing 200k events year after year? I really have no idea how many people do these, what do the number look like? Do the NJ event you do break 100 people?
Gravel events are hot AF right now. 10% of the people race them and everyone else in for the challenge. People seem to travel for them too.
The first paragraph begs the question of statistics. All of our collective discussion is really mental masturbation without actual numbers to back any of this up.
Who wants to collate the data on all races in all disciplines over the last 6 years? I’m joking of course but this would be an amazing picture to look at and I bet, very telling.
Cycling is increasing in popularity but not the racing end of it. This is a good article to understand over view of fitness trends. Page 9 had an interesting finding as it pertains to cycling and what folks are looking for -Being outdoors, away from the regular demands of work and family responsibility and being able to unplug for a short period of time, attracts all ages.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0PlOMH-KJ3JuLmxecXN91x
Another good article for breakdowns of popularity of activities by age groups and sex.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw1biZTfExPjz4RUouDKHr5F&cshid=1558183034334
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0PlOMH-KJ3JuLmxecXN91x
Another good article for breakdowns of popularity of activities by age groups and sex.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw1biZTfExPjz4RUouDKHr5F&cshid=1558183034334
I’m talking into my phone as I drive to chimney rock to check it out so take this for what it’s worth and whatever the phone turned this voice into well enjoy it. Hey there’s a deer. I wonder where I put my shoes. Oh sorry. Until you have real statistics you can’t say that cycling is growing in numbers. The only actual evidence we have right now is that bike shops are closing left and right which supports the idea that cycling is actually not increasing in numbers. Any statistic needs to be looked at from the perspective of how is it being measured. For instants how many people died in 1800 of cervical cancer? Probably none because they didn’t know how to measure for it. I know this is an extreme example but but as we dive more and more into the statistics we have to make sure that we are measuring apples to apples. The bike shop is closing do not support the idea that cycling is going in numbers. We don’t have enough of a Strava baseline to say either way. In 10 years from now you can probably get a better idea from something like Strava but right now I don’t think you have the data. And I’m not sure that bike sales is representative because we don’t know who is reporting what numbers now versus who was reporting what numbers then. So in the end Who can really say what is true and what is a blurry a statistic. Remember the expression about lies lies and statistics or is it lies lies damn lies statistics and corn beef hash? OK I probably should go ride my bike now. I will be reporting back in the chimney rock conditions to read later. And Iggy I will see you in Chester later. Wear your best outfit.
onetracker
Well-Known Member
Agreed. Hard to pinpoint to a single answer. Fair Hill IMO is an outlier due to location; it is so central drawing from Philly, MD, NJ, VA, DC that there is a huge population of racers new & old. However, I think Fair Hill also has a festival vibe which has always made it an attractive race to put on the calendar. The right answer is probably an aggregation of most of the comments in this thread. I guess what I was saying above is newness and reinvention never hurts.
Joe J
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You have obviously never ridden in the front group of a gravel grinder.
Joe J
Well-Known Member
Has been around for what 20 years now and a logistical nightmare. I've never done it but to keep bring back great numbers they must be doing something right.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
The key word was “more”. I fully plan on doing the croatan buckfifty next year. But in reality a few go off the front and race and others chase koms or just enjoy the ride. HoH, MKF, GGC all the same. Even Marty’s Fat 50 got soft.
Joe J
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Aren't those rides? I'm talking races Dirty Bikes Gravel Series, Overland, Iron Cx, Monster Cx.