Tim
aka sptimmy43
This is interesting. Full disclosure: my father and grandfather were both cops. I am not one and I have no training whatsoever. I am not perfect and I have been pulled over before. I have never been beaten by a cop. In fact, my experiences with police have never been anything other than pleasant, aside from actually being handed a speeding ticket.
I think force is absolutely justified for disobeying a police order. We as a society employ police to keep order and to protect the way of life we expect. Some people have ill intentions and we expect the police to deal with those people. Those people may be willing to take a life to carry on with whatever they are doing.
If I am a cop and I stop a car and the people aren't acting reasonably I would be wondering why. What are they trying to hide? Is this guy going to try and take my gun and shoot me with it? Why is he interfering in a simple traffic stop? If it's me I am not taking the chance and I would take action to control the situation. As was already stated, this guy had 7 chances to obey. That's 6 more than he deserved.
It's a slippery slope. Which police commands matter and which ones don't? Which ones do we need to obey before it's stick time? To what level do we let society crumble before it's time for action? Let's face it, the police are powerless unless they have the ability to use force when people are not acting in a way that society has deemed to be acceptable. To me it's no different if you disobey a fairly simple order or are straight up running from the police. If you don't comply, you will be made to comply. Period.
I think force is absolutely justified for disobeying a police order. We as a society employ police to keep order and to protect the way of life we expect. Some people have ill intentions and we expect the police to deal with those people. Those people may be willing to take a life to carry on with whatever they are doing.
If I am a cop and I stop a car and the people aren't acting reasonably I would be wondering why. What are they trying to hide? Is this guy going to try and take my gun and shoot me with it? Why is he interfering in a simple traffic stop? If it's me I am not taking the chance and I would take action to control the situation. As was already stated, this guy had 7 chances to obey. That's 6 more than he deserved.
It's a slippery slope. Which police commands matter and which ones don't? Which ones do we need to obey before it's stick time? To what level do we let society crumble before it's time for action? Let's face it, the police are powerless unless they have the ability to use force when people are not acting in a way that society has deemed to be acceptable. To me it's no different if you disobey a fairly simple order or are straight up running from the police. If you don't comply, you will be made to comply. Period.