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Agree.



I don't think that leading a ride should be a requirement for joining the group, and people shouldn't have to lead a ride on a randomly generated date based on order of joining the group. I probably can't lead a ride the weekend you assigned me, and I shouldn't have to find someone to lead a ride instead of me. If you guys want me to show you around Wildcat again and we can find a day that works, great. I don't generally plan more than a few days in advance though. I joined the Strava group because it was private, so I had to join in order to see when the rides are. I'd like to be an inactive member of the group, and occasionally just show up randomly to rides.
I feel like we punish you guys who help us with the list
 

Paul H

Fearless OOS Poser
Yeah, but the more people that are active in the group, the more people there are to volunteer. Have you guys had a problem finding people to lead rides yet? If nobody has volunteered and there is no ride scheduled, then get a discussion going in this thread and try and get someone to volunteer.



The world isn't going to end, and this group isn't going to disband if one weekend goes by without a ride. You're overthinking this.



You would eventually meet him on a ride and find out. You should use this thread for organizing rides, trash talking, etc. and just use Strava to actually post the rides. Then people don't have to follow this thread at all but can still show up to a fun, chill ride with people when it's convenient for them.
Back story here is... ppl complained a ride was too early... too late... not that park again... and etc. So... put up or shut up and you lead a ride.

Have we had trouble finding guides? Depends on your perspective but I had to take these guys to HM at least 4 times to fill in. Not mention Vic would fill in at Ringwood and Jungle.

Would the world end? Nope but sure is nice to know there is a ride.
 

JimN

Well-Known Member
Team MTBNJ Halter's
Have we had trouble finding guides? Depends on your perspective but I had to take these guys to HM at least 4 times to fill in. Not mention Vic would fill in at Ringwood and Jungle.
I think with more people in the group this becomes less of a problem. Also, people are always going to complain. If people don't want to ride the same old place, post here asking where they want to ride instead. Then tag some people asking if they can give a tour. I'll also say that between garmin/gpx files, maprika, and trailforks, you don't really need a guide anywhere. Just grab a route off Strava and go ride it.
 
Back story here is... ppl complained a ride was too early... too late... not that park again... and etc. So... put up or shut up and you lead a ride.

Have we had trouble finding guides? Depends on your perspective but I had to take these guys to HM at least 4 times to fill in. Not mention Vic would fill in at Ringwood and Jungle.

Would the world end? Nope but sure is nice to know there is a ride.
More subject matter for the bar. Not an easy answer but together we will all figure it out
 
I think with more people in the group this becomes less of a problem. Also, people are always going to complain. If people don't want to ride the same old place, post here asking where they want to ride instead. Then tag some people asking if they can give a tour. I'll also say that between garmin/gpx files, maprika, and trailforks, you don't really need a guide anywhere. Just grab a route off Strava and go ride it.
That’s how I usually learn most places. Another thought is, does there have to be an official ride every week. For example MTBNJ does group rides a few times a year. It’s a lot to plan. Maybe an official ride once a month then just post s ride as they develop
 
Back story here is... ppl complained a ride was too early... too late... not that park again... and etc. So... put up or shut up and you lead a ride.

Have we had trouble finding guides? Depends on your perspective but I had to take these guys to HM at least 4 times to fill in. Not mention Vic would fill in at Ringwood and Jungle.

Would the world end? Nope but sure is nice to know there is a ride.
That's the thing if this fell apart I have your number and Brett's I'd just collect the numbers of people I like to ride with and roll with that.

I know I was part of the issues since I did early rides and I appreciate you Standing up for me. There are enough of us where if I ride doesn't match up there are other people looking. If we could all or a larger group of riders could post rides I think we might have a better time. Not everyone will post a ride, I for one would just pick from the menu if I can
 

serviceguy

Well-Known Member
I think with more people in the group this becomes less of a problem. Also, people are always going to complain. If people don't want to ride the same old place, post here asking where they want to ride instead. Then tag some people asking if they can give a tour. I'll also say that between garmin/gpx files, maprika, and trailforks, you don't really need a guide anywhere. Just grab a route off Strava and go ride it.
^^^This.

I can't tell a tree from a rock, I just follow the rider in front of me (that is if I can still see him/her), and yet the very few times that I rode on my own I had zero issues following directions on trailforks (thanks @BPaze for the piece of advice, mind you soon after I noticed it's all over PinkBike which I browse every day, duh!), well at least until my phone died (which happens usually around 3/8 of the total length of the ride)...
 

Paul H

Fearless OOS Poser
I think with more people in the group this becomes less of a problem. Also, people are always going to complain. If people don't want to ride the same old place, post here asking where they want to ride instead. Then tag some people asking if they can give a tour. I'll also say that between garmin/gpx files, maprika, and trailforks, you don't really need a guide anywhere. Just grab a route off Strava and go ride it.
Maybe... but there are 50+ on strava and guess how many who actively talk about riding... 4? 5?

Instead of mtbnj scheduling something... imagine they open it up to the boards for discussion. It would be a shit show. I'm not saying we are up to the same level but I just remember the shit show that happened when Max took charge. No offense Max :p
 

JimN

Well-Known Member
Team MTBNJ Halter's
Maybe... but there are 50+ on strava and guess how many who actively talk about riding... 4? 5?
Most people in the Strava group aren't ever going to be very active here. I think you guys should just treat the group as if it's just the couple of you that are really active in it, post rides for places you want to ride, and if other people in the group see it on Strava and join you, then great! Maybe over time you'll get some more people that are more active here, maybe not. If people complain then tough shit. You can't please everyone, so don't try.
 

serviceguy

Well-Known Member
I honestly can not go back and read who knows how many pages, but...the first step in order to find the solution is usually to identify the problem.

What is the problem ?
 

Paul H

Fearless OOS Poser
Most people in the Strava group aren't ever going to be very active here. I think you guys should just treat the group as if it's just the couple of you that are really active in it, post rides for places you want to ride, and if other people in the group see it on Strava and join you, then great! Maybe over time you'll get some more people that are more active here, maybe not. If people complain then tough shit. You can't please everyone, so don't try.
That's what we will discuss. We already have varying opinions.

When I took charge, one of the thing was to give back to the mtbnj community and provide a "service" if you will and have fun. Maybe that was an error on my part. But honestly, and I don't mean to defend it... well... Maybe I do but the new system has been working pretty well the last couple of months. I don't think system itself is broken but as it stands, there are some work to be done.

As for me... I think I have done a pretty good thing here and brought out a number of guys out riding and exposed them to parks they would not have explored otherwise. I have no regrets whichever way this goes. Ran this thing for the better part of the year and pretty proud of it. :)