official 2017-2018 biyf thread

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Patrick

Overthinking the draft from the basement already
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FTR - i think we should create a mixed class (which is easy for me to do) - the race within the race thing......moar playas
 

Victor I

aka Ridgehog
Just checking in and seeing all of this talk about trainer rides vs. no trainer rides... I'm new, so if BIYF is all about riding outside, if that's the history of the thing, then so be it. I can drop out. Personally, for me, this time of year is all about building base (that's the name of the contest, right), getting miles and time on the bike. I'd prefer to do it outside, but I'm also a realist and I recognize that I have goals that I want to meet and if I want to achieve them I have to get them no matter what. So far this year, I've been on the trainer, but that'll probably change at some point. If people want me out, that's fine too. In the end, I don't really care if I win BIYF, I care if I win TT's.
BIYF has always been about riding outside. Nobody wants you out. I personally welcome everyone. The point is to take the trainer rides out of the contest. I assume Zwift and other trainer forums have their own contests. BIYF helps motivate riders to get out and get some fresh air, beat the winter blues, etc. What helps motivate me is some of the great photos that people post of their rides. I have a suggestion for next years contest we take our bikes trainers outside (perfect compromise)
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JimN

Captain Wildcat
Team MTBNJ Halter's
Yeah, the original point of the contest was a way to motivate each other to ride bikes outside during the winter. It was only for biking and only outdoor rides counted. I didn't take part in the contest the first few years, because it didn't count things like running and cross country skiing.

If people want an additional BIYF contest to see who does the most trainer miles, that's fine too. I'm sure most people find it hard enough to find motivation to ride a trainer, so a contest could definitely help.
 

Mountain Bike Mike

Well-Known Member
Cmon people... seriously shut the ef up about the trainer talk... way to make this about a trainer / no trainer debate

Get out there and ride and post up some good pics and stories from your adventures...

When someone creates the Trainer contest, gym stationary bikes and spin classes should be in there as well with extra credit for exercising with other humans.
 

Robin

Well-Known Member
I've been on the forum for a while - and this "contest" has always been about riding outside...and I think it should stay that way.

No one is shaming people for riding a trainer or inside - you do what you need to do. I ride and run inside myself. I just don't post the data to this contest.

What we (well most) are asking is that only outside rides be included for THIS contest. How you go about getting that data to post is your choice, as @fidodie stated in the most recent "rules" thread.
 

Paul H

Fearless OOS Poser
I always thought the one of the main point of this contest was about rule #5 which is why I've never joined cuz I am a wuss. My hands and feet get cold :p
I think it would be grave injustice to the tradition of this contest to include trainer time.

@CrankAddictRich as others have mentioned, I don't think anyone wants you out but just don't post up those trainer time.
 

Kaleidopete

Well-Known Member
Today's ride was a short one, only three miles because I wanted to check on my trails with this rain and heat.
Most trails are snowless, fire roads are a combination of ice and clear.
The ground is mushy and the grassy sides are better riding.
Started raining too hard, so I quit, I had my fun.
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Robin

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I had all intentions of riding after my meeting yesterday but we got done later than I planned...plus I'm now fighting the chest cold/croup that most of my students have. So this week is pretty much a "washout".

Since I have no riding photos, here's a photo of the bulletin board we re-did yesterday.

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Steve Vai

Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
I can't blame roadies for flocking to the indoors, have you ridden on the road? It's scary shit. Like a dozen people a week get run over and killed. I'm changing my vote to allow trainers. If nothing else it will keep the trails quiet so the rest of us can have fun.
 

MadisonDan

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Team MTBNJ Halter's
Seems like the biggest difference this year is the auto feed from Strava. In years past, we had to post up every ride, with a link, to be counted. Unfortunately, this required a fair amount of work. The spirit of BIYF was to get out. This contest forced me to buy lights and get out in the early morning or late evening in the dark and JRA. Was a great way to push myself outside my comfort zone a little.

As one of the offending trainer people, I'm going to make those rides private for the duration of the contest. It's just easier this way.
 

Patrick

Overthinking the draft from the basement already
Staff member
In the end it's mtbnj's call as they are putting this "contest" on, but finish what you start and don't go changing the rules during the event.

Generally yes, but not in this case for this issue we are discussing IMO

people that want to go pure outside can use the private or correction method.

this is why i'm favoring a separate class for peeps that want to do a mixed competition.
 

Robin

Well-Known Member
so i'll throw one more thing out,

"we've always done it that way" is the worst excuse for continuing to do something the same way.

ok - perhaps then let's put the old title (BIYF) to rest then...
 
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