Lance

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http://lancearmstrong.com/news-events/lance-armstongs-statement-of-august-23-2012

Lance Armstong's Statement of August 23, 2012
AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.
I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.
If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?
From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.
The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.
USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.
Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.
 
I'm with Lance here. If they didn't catch him doping during the time he was racing, then F-off. Maybe he was better at cheating than everyone else, but I think that only means that everyone else was doing it too.

In a sport where convicted cheaters are allowed to come back and race (Contador), I think this type of investigation is just ridiculous.

Tim
 
One of the things I dont get about this whole thing is (regardless of Lance doping or not) how can the USADA, who doesn't govern the Tour de France, strip him of his TDF titles?
 
One of the things I dont get about this whole thing is (regardless of Lance doping or not) how can the USADA, who doesn't govern the Tour de France, strip him of his TDF titles?

Anti doping agency does not strip the titles, also does. However doping offenses result in loss of winnings (see Contador, 2010 TdF, Vinokourov, 2007 TdF TT, Hamilton, 2004 Olympic TT, etc, etc).
 
I'm with Lance here. If they didn't catch him doping during the time he was racing, then F-off. Maybe he was better at cheating than everyone else, but I think that only means that everyone else was doing it too.

In a sport where convicted cheaters are allowed to come back and race (Contador), I think this type of investigation is just ridiculous.

Tim

What he said.
 
what a ridiculous waste of tax $

well done Feds!!!

you disgraced an AMERICAN SPORTS HERO and INSPIRATION TO CANCER VICTIMS WORLDWIDE.

well done!!!

glad my tax $ went to this.:mad:
 
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Its not like he wasn't being tested they had years of competition to test and catch him. He's retired you missed your chances. Worry about the current contestants.
 
He woulda had this case take over the rest of his life. I'm glad he said enough is enough. The titles don't mean anything to him. He changed cycling forever and he has inspired thousands of cancer survivors. How many life's have the anti-doping agency changed?

I think this is awful news
 
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Near as I can find, no hard evidence specific to Lance--just the testimony of 10 former teammates. Maybe more will be released now that Lance is forgoing arbitration. I doubt it though.

Bottom line in my mind is that if he was tested just like everybody else and passed every single time with no evidence of tampering, it does not matter what anyone says; by definition he is compliant with the rules and regulations of the sport.

Lance will remain 7 time champ in my mind until somebody shows me proof. And I think that will be true for most folks who don't hate Lance (for whatever reason) and see what they really have against him.

I think a battle between USA cycling, UCI, and Usada is about to light up. I think it will be a just reward for Usada if, by doing this, it pushes them over the edge and leads to their own dissolution. .
 
Its not like he wasn't being tested they had years of competition to test and catch him. He's retired you missed your chances. Worry about the current contestants.

+1

what a ridiculous waste of tax $

well done Feds!!!

you disgraced an AMERICAN SPORTS HERO and INSPIRATION TO CANCER VICTIMS WORLDWIDE.

well done!!!

glad my tax $ went to this.:mad:

+1


Having watched my best friend battle Testicular Cancer this past year (thankfully it didn't spread to his brain or lungs like Lance) only solidifies Lance as a hero in my eyes. Doping or not, what he did was incredible and I am disgusted that people need to tarnish that.:mad:
 
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Bottom line in my mind is that if he was tested just like everybody else and passed every single time with no evidence of tampering, it does not matter what anyone says; by definition he is compliant with the rules and regulations of the sport.

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Agreed. He was tested and passed. So I guess they are saying that their tests are useless bullshit that mean nothing. IMO, it needs to be: we nailed you, or we didnt nail you. The end.
 
Well since the general sentiment seems to be that all of the people who are ready to testify against him are liars, why do you think that is? Did he piss that many people off that badly that they would want to ruin his life and legacy? If it is all about money and someone is paying them to do it, who do you think it is and why?
 
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