wonderturtle
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What you think ?
Huber and hartshorne are the most eroded they've ever been. What will the mcps do?
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wonderturtle
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100% dead on
But certain trails are dangerous to hike as well. ,opportunities for twisted ankles abound
And what about the horses? Surprised the horsey people aren't pissed. Or perhaps trails at huber that are closed to bikers but open to horses (go figure that logic) are just fine? Probably.
I am a rule follower. So I stay off the "off limits" trails at huber and hartshorne. But the neglect is so unbelievably profound it makes me think - screw it. If mcps isn't gonna keep up their part of the bargain I may as well ignore my obligations too (ie, obeying the trail rules) and just ride wherever the heck I want! seriously.
Even worse (since it affects public health).....
last time I went to Tatum, the ramnissen section of holmdel and Thompson they weren't mowing the field-edge trails!! With all of the tick-born diseases, they have an obligation to the public to keep those trails trimmed. But last time I went to each of those parks you're riding (or walking and/or walking your dog) through knee deep grass. That's far worse than the erosion at huber/ hartshorne. That's a public health problem.
Total neglect.
Screw mcps! They totally. F'ing . Suck.
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Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Nothing, but getting the full fire road kom a couple weeks back was the scariest thing I have done with the amount of erosion. Maybe I'll keep the fat bike.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
The said part is I emailed Tracy about JORBA and not even a reply.
Matt_
I Get Jokes
Tracy & co seemed excited about the JORBA turnout at the training course held at Clayton a few months back that myself, @michael.su , and at least 4 other JORBA members attended. And some of the trainers were interested in our ideas/input for trail work. Seemed like there was definitely room for dialogue and a mutual interest to work together.
Karate Monkey
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Aye, I attended a training session recently, and there seems to be a misconception that we all enjoy the chunder.
That said, the ship for the "moderate" designation sailed a long time ago for Buttermilk Valley, what with the steps and big erosion over the root systems.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
The
problem is it's now end of June with only one TM completed on one small section. Pointless.
mwlikesbikes
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I've got to imagine that this morning's thunderstorm didn't help the park at all...
The Kalmyk
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This won't work either. Who wants to sound like a whiny little beotch.
Take them out to a few dinners and let them read the menu right to left. Rub elbows with them- put their agenda before mountain biking and let the traction set in. Obviously the currency of time isn't working. Spend some money.
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Frank
Sasquatch
Monmouth Cty. = Essex Cty. = Union Cty
JORBA has tried on many occasions to help, but was turned down......well there was one exception, they would gladly accept our tools. Sadly, the big wigs are concerned about job security more than trail conditions. That said, keep trying!!! One day they will tire get tired of the complaints and perhaps get off their butts!
JORBA has tried on many occasions to help, but was turned down......well there was one exception, they would gladly accept our tools. Sadly, the big wigs are concerned about job security more than trail conditions. That said, keep trying!!! One day they will tire get tired of the complaints and perhaps get off their butts!
I thought that since I complain to you about it and that you work for MCPS I was complaining to the big wigs??? ;*)
wonderturtle
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the way I think of its not like jorba would be doing their job since the mcps staff clearly does no trail maintenance anyway.
SmooveP
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And we need to show up for TM sessions. While I admit to missing a lot of sessions, I was the sole MTB'er at a few of them.
wonderturtle
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I've been to a number of them and they just piss me off. There is no plan. They just send some folks in one direction and others in another direction. Since there is no plan they just "fix" the first thing they come across that appears to them to need fixing. Seen this every time I go. Knowing the trails I point out to them "you know there is a section right around the corner that is badly eroded" which usually gets ignored so they can fix the first non-problem they encountered.
Last two times I went I just went off on my own with a pair of hedge clippers and single handedly trimmed miles of trails. Since I only had 3 hours I was running between sections to trim back as much as I could in the little time we had.
But don't get me wrong - even though this might sound like a criticism of volunteers - it absolutely is NOT a criticism of the volunteers. After all how much progress can a 75 year old woman with clippers make in 3 hours?!? 100% of the criticism is towards the mcps that this is how they address trail maintenance,
But, hey, there's always a photo op at the end so they put on their website (or whatever) so can feel good about it.