Hartshorne/Huber Conditions

Discussion in 'Hartshorne and Huber Woods Parks' started by jerzey111, May 21, 2011.

  1. sptimmy43

    sptimmy43 Member

    Location:
    South Plainfield
    @pooriggy already has you covered but I'll add that this place is really well drained. I haven't been there in about a week as I am fighting a nasty cold right now but I've ridden here the day after inches of rain and my bike didn't even get dirty. It is true that you can't mess up what isn't cared for but I don't particularly enjoy riding through endless sloppy mud, whether anyone cares or not. You won't find any mud at Hartshorne. I'm pretty sure you could even ride this place in the rain and not get muddy.
     
  2. Tonggi

    Tonggi Active Member

    Location:
    Skankville, NJ
    I'm with you. I don't want to ride in slop. I only remember seeing mud between the connector of harts to hubers, forgot lot name now. Otherwise place is always fantastic. With the impending doom of rain saturday I will shoot to go here early Saturday morning.
     
  3. SmooveP

    SmooveP Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Little Silver
    There's a TM session scheduled for this Saturday, Nov 18. I may show up for the simple reason that the MTB community is criminally under-represented.
     
  4. sptimmy43

    sptimmy43 Member

    Location:
    South Plainfield
    When and where specifically? I may be able to make it, too.
     
  5. SmooveP

    SmooveP Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Little Silver
    9:00AM at the maintenance lot at the end of Hartshorne Rd. You need to have completed the park system training class before you can participate.
     
  6. sptimmy43

    sptimmy43 Member

    Location:
    South Plainfield
    I'm out, then, since I haven't done the course.
     
  7. Flaubert

    Flaubert Formerly RobW

    Location:
    Hartshorne
    this shouldn't be the message from a team member of the site (many people read this that arent a member of the site). just because the park system wont have jorba involved doesnt mean we need to bash or trash the park because you feel indifferent.

    just a general question here for the board... how many of us here have the park training and participate in the maintenance.... also, could you imagine what the park system do if there was an influx of people from the mtb community that was to take the training class and actually show up for maintenance?

    when was the last time Jorba inquired to help the park system? the squeaky wheel gets the lube- all they need to know is that NICA kids practice here and they may end up making it a better place and take the offer from jorba.... i think its time they know about NICA---- kids getting hurt at a place wont go over too well!
     
  8. pooriggy

    pooriggy Well-Known Member Team MTBNJ Halter's

    Location:
    Cranford
    Just telling it like it is. I ride here every week, the place is uncared for, it would seem that there is indifference to TM here.

    I have the park training and so do a lot of other folks in the mtb community. Several years ago myself and a large percentage of mtbers/jorba members showed up to a TM and ended up shoveling gravel on a road for 3hrs and building water bars. Activity is not productivity son.

    Rob, we've been down this road before. The management for the park system has there own volunteer base organization, which they feel is adequate. I am 98% certain that they will never let Jorba in, however maybe you should prove me wrong and convince the park system to allow an outside organization in to provide TM for Hartshorne, using Jorba guidelines and modern trail building techniques.
     
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  9. Matt_

    Matt_ I Get Jokes

    Location:
    Jackson/Howell
    There was a very large group of us representing JORBA and the mtb community at the training session this past Spring @ Clayton.

    Very positive atmosphere and the park people seemed really excited about our involvement.

    I think that a lot of us were hoping for a TM day or two scheduled at Clayton park to get our foot in the door and start working together & sharing TM strategies.... didn't happen but maybe 2017 dates were already established. Fingers crossed for 2018
     
  10. mwlikesbikes

    mwlikesbikes Well-Known Member

    Location:
    east brunswick, nj
    As far as conditions, I was there Sunday. Overall good, there's a couple logs down on the first section of rocky point as you head in from the grand tour connector climb and a bigger tree that has to be climbed over just before the next road crossing.
    Then in several places throughout the park some smaller logs have been cut out.
     
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  11. SmooveP

    SmooveP Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Little Silver
    I love these threads where everybody complains. Very effective!
    The TM sessions at Hartshorne usually get decent turnout (20 or more people), but very few are mountain bikers.
    I attend randomly. A few times, I was the only mountain biker in the group.
    The Park System people are very receptive to ANYONE who shows up to help. FWIW, most of the Park people and other volunteers are not mountain bikers, so their priorities might be different than ours.

    Anyone interested in volunteering can contact:

    Tracy Shiffman
    Coordinator of Volunteers
    Monmouth County Park System
    805 Newman Springs Road
    Lincroft, NJ 07738
    Tracy.Shiffman@co.monmouth.nj.us
    732-842-4000, ext. 4283
     
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  12. sptimmy43

    sptimmy43 Member

    Location:
    South Plainfield
    Got a ride in after work today after over a week off the bike due to a nasty cold that I just couldn't shake. Anyway, conditions were good. In fact it was much drier than I expected even after the rain yesterday. The sandy spots are sugar. I almost went over my bars in a spot that was a bit obscured by leaves. Not sure how I managed to save it but I won't be surprised if I wake up tomorrow with something hurting.

    In other news the MCPS has been out with their chainsaws in the last week or so. Nearly every log-over has been cut away. There was a tree that fell a couple weeks ago that needed to be cut away as it was about 3.5 feet above the ground (not ride-able for mortals like me) but I am actually disappointed about the others. In fact, the (12"? or so) log that has been down on Grand Tour just as you come off of Rocky Point riding clockwise gave me a sense of accomplishment when I could finally bunny hop it cleanly. It's been there for months. Not sure what made them cut it up now. Rocky point still has a couple smaller logs requiring hopping skills.
     

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