Clean Start

[Patrick]

good effort there, what were your 5K times before you started training for Chicago? Haven't been under 24 in years, time to start running, thanks for the inspiring posts Pat

Back in 2012 i was in the 23 minute range.
Valentines day 2017, after doing a little bit of running in January while in Florida, I ran 25:58. Balloon Fest in August 2018 23:48. Last two have been in the 22 minute range.
I'd really like to post a run with sub-7 minute average. we'll see, gotta do more intervals, and work on my stride/cadence. Not sure i can get to @rick81721's level of sub 20.
Maybe if i lose the 10 lbs....

Looking forward to the next 10k race. See if i can establish a solid pace and go sub 50.

 

[rick81721]

Back in 2012 i was in the 23 minute range.
Valentines day 2017, after doing a little bit of running in January while in Florida, I ran 25:58. Balloon Fest in August 2018 23:48. Last two have been in the 22 minute range.
I'd really like to post a run with sub-7 minute average. we'll see, gotta do more intervals, and work on my stride/cadence. Not sure i can get to @rick81721's level of sub 20.
Maybe if i lose the 10 lbs....

Looking forward to the next 10k race. See if i can establish a solid pace and go sub 50.

Sub 20? Where'd you get that idea? I think the fastest 5K I ever did was 22+ on a treadmill.

 

[Patrick]

Sub 20? Where'd you get that idea? I think the fastest 5K I ever did was 22+ on a treadmill.

thought you said your ran a sub 20? you should run a sub 20. you got this, 6:26 pace.

i need 21:42 for 6:59 pace.

 

[rick81721]

thought you said your ran a sub 20? you should run a sub 20. you got this, 6:26 pace.

i need 21:42 for 6:59 pace.

Haha no I said "if I wanted to run a sub-20 5K" - it would take a training commitment that I'm not interested in. Would probably have to run 3 times a week for a few months. My only goal is to be a faster cyclist - I run ~ 1X a week primarily as cross-training.

 

[shrpshtr325]

Toe nail update!

Big toe: Nail is hanging by the cuticle/matrix. I might just have it removed, cause it will never heal.

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Lined up for another 5k this weekend. It was at a vinyard, so the crowd was going to be mixed.
this was all on the cinder/dirt roads - which were in decent shape. not too many rocks or ruts.
a couple muddy areas, but avoidable. A little bit of elevation change, nothing too bad.

spent most of the run in 6th place. Couldn't hold on to the 5th place athlete after the 2 mile mark.
couple others decided to sprint the finish (they were lurking behind me most of the race), i didn't
have it in me, as i could feel the fatigue of last week's race - 22:47 so took 8th of 507.
I didn't see the detailed results, so have no idea how many people went sub 25 minutes.

running downhill, trying not to fall on my face!
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good job, and here i thought the marathon had knocked some sense back into you . . . guess not, will have to come up with a backup plan!

 

[rick81721]

Toe nail update!

Big toe: Nail is hanging by the cuticle/matrix. I might just have it removed, cause it will never heal.

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Lined up for another 5k this weekend. It was at a vinyard, so the crowd was going to be mixed.
this was all on the cinder/dirt roads - which were in decent shape. not too many rocks or ruts.
a couple muddy areas, but avoidable. A little bit of elevation change, nothing too bad.

spent most of the run in 6th place. Couldn't hold on to the 5th place athlete after the 2 mile mark.
couple others decided to sprint the finish (they were lurking behind me most of the race), i didn't
have it in me, as i could feel the fatigue of last week's race - 22:47 so took 8th of 507.
I didn't see the detailed results, so have no idea how many people went sub 25 minutes.

running downhill, trying not to fall on my face!
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Good job and glad to see you changed your avatar. Now go all the way and get a "I love running" avatar!

 

[Patrick]

Good job and glad to see you changed your avatar. Now go all the way and get a "I love running" avatar!

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[Patrick]

holy crap -

choosing RV as my return to "real" mtb after 4 months of running was probably not the right play.
I'm paying for 15+miles and 3,000 feet of climbing. Stuff that i was previously able to ride, was just too steep.
the power wasn't there beyond a crawl (worse than my usual crawl) and I was off the bike a couple of times.

This is in direct contrast with having plenty of stamina. When i caught the group, there was no need to
rest - and i was quickly able to restablish on the less extreme grades.

I'm still freaked going downhill without feathering the brakes, but tried to let it go a bit more on the way back to the lot.
this really finished burning the legs, and managed to have cramps come-and-go for the rest of the evening.
Nothing too bad over night.

Anyway, looking to do more of these multi-hour adventures. See ya out there.

 

[rick81721]

Don't lose the stamina you worked so hard to acheive - ride at least 3x a week!

 

[Paul H]

I guess its true... different muscles between running and cycling?

 

[Patrick]

I guess its true... different muscles between running and cycling?

Cramps came in the same muscles that I mentioned in the marathon recap -
probably more about the mechanics? i should start running off the bike, the last couple of duathlons were a disaster on the second run.

also minimum required power?

btw, mountain man http://www.mountainman.org/ is next weekend. bring it!

 

[shrpshtr325]

holy crap -

choosing RV as my return to "real" mtb after 4 months of running was probably not the right play.
I'm paying for 15+miles and 3,000 feet of climbing. Stuff that i was previously able to ride, was just too steep.
the power wasn't there beyond a crawl (worse than my usual crawl) and I was off the bike a couple of times.

This is in direct contrast with having plenty of stamina. When i caught the group, there was no need to
rest - and i was quickly able to restablish on the less extreme grades.

I'm still freaked going downhill without feathering the brakes, but tried to let it go a bit more on the way back to the lot.
this really finished burning the legs, and managed to have cramps come-and-go for the rest of the evening.
Nothing too bad over night.

Anyway, looking to fit in more of these multi-hour adventures. See ya out there.

glad you were able to joing us (lead?) and have a good time, the cycling power will come back quick if you keep at it (quicker than when you initially had to build it).

also, road riding is great for building/maintaining stamina compared to mtn biking (steady efforts are easier to come by, at least thats my theory)

 

[Patrick]

I've been really lazy about the stamina aspect of training the last few weeks. Just not motivated.
Every day has been like a day at the gym. Up/down ladders with equipment, carrying stuff, straining.
The old body is toast at the end of the day. But i'll try to get out for a run in a bit, and Jungle on Monday should be fun.


I've lost 1 of the 3 toenails so far. the middle toe came off today - took a bit of surgery to get the last bit, but nothing an exacto knife couldn't handle.
The big toe nail was hanging, but too attached to mess with, other one is going to take a bit more time.

Spoiler: I wouldn't click here. Seriously.

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Had a great time working the NYC Marathon. Cool experience inside the ropes with @sarcaro on 5th ave, near the Guggenheim.
This was in the 23rd mile, a slight climb for a mile or so, and featured the turn into the park. We (team of 10) set-up the railings and banners.
Also did some crowd control, because it was amazing that people thought they should just walk in front of people racing.

The elite runners make it look easy. The lead F had a huge gap on the field. The front of the M group had a sprint finish, with 3rd not too far back.
Hand cycle and wheelchairs were also rolling through. Note the trucks with the clocks mounted, so they know their time.

In an homage to Christina's World,(on display about 20 blocks away) I have named this Steph's World -

This one came out particularly well - then let google do its thing.

 

[thegock]

I've been really lazy about the stamina aspect of training the last few weeks. Just not motivated.
Every day has been like a day at the gym. Up/down ladders with equipment, carrying stuff, straining.
The old body is toast at the end of the day. But i'll try to get out for a run in a bit, and Jungle on Monday should be fun.


I've lost 1 of the 3 toenails so far. the middle toe came off today - took a bit of surgery to get the last bit, but nothing an exacto knife couldn't handle.
The big toe nail was hanging, but too attached to mess with, other one is going to take a bit more time.

Spoiler: I wouldn't click here. Seriously.

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File under "Things that can't be unseen."

 

[rick81721]

I've been really lazy about the stamina aspect of training the last few weeks. Just not motivated.
Every day has been like a day at the gym. Up/down ladders with equipment, carrying stuff, straining.
The old body is toast at the end of the day. But i'll try to get out for a run in a bit, and Jungle on Monday should be fun.

Man it's a shame to get in such good shape training for the marathon and then let it slip away. Start riding again! Didn't you setup a fake riding station? At least do that!

 

[Patrick]

Man it's a shame to get in such good shape training for the marathon and then let it slip away. Start riding again! Didn't you setup a fake riding station? At least do that!

agree - although i think there is something to this strength thing too.
I have everything i need to get zwifting, just need to do some easy swaps (11 sp -> 10 sp cog, new stem) and ready to rock.
i put the trainer tire on the front wheel today! cause funny.

did an easy 5k today after eating, (hot sauce on a quiche.) came in right around 8min pace, with very little effort.
feet felt ok. i'll get back on it - lots of pressure on my project, but it is coming together nicely now. flemington turkey trot
if you are looking for a thursday morning run!

 

[rick81721]

agree - although i think there is something to this strength thing too.
I have everything i need to get zwifting, just need to do some easy swaps (11 sp -> 10 sp cog, new stem) and ready to rock.
i put the trainer tire on the front wheel today! cause funny.

did an easy 5k today after eating, (hot sauce on a quiche.) came in right around 8min pace, with very little effort.
feet felt ok. i'll get back on it - lots of pressure on my project, but it is coming together nicely now. flemington turkey trot
if you are looking for a thursday morning run!

Hey Pat I passed this guy twice on hollow road on sunday, forgot to see if he was on strava until just now. He did a 14 mile run, climbing spring hill twice:

https://www.strava.com/activities/2008976866

Looking at his strava, he did a 100K race in April in 9 hrs 12 min, came in 2nd

 

[Patrick]

Hey Pat I passed this guy twice on hollow road on sunday, forgot to see if he was on strava until just now. He did a 14 mile run, climbing spring hill twice:

https://www.strava.com/activities/2008976866

Looking at his strava, he did a 100K race in April in 9 hrs 12 min, came in 2nd

jeez - trail marathon at 3:12!
He ran farther than i biked this year. which doesn't say much for me.

 

[shrpshtr325]

jeez - trail marathon at 3:12!
He ran farther than i biked this year. which doesn't say much for me.

doesnt say much but says is quite loudly . . .

 

[Mahnken]

jeez - trail marathon at 3:12!
He ran farther than i biked this year. which doesn't say much for me.

How do you go that fast on a trail? I just broke a toe going way slower on a trail, lol. Trails are made for bikes!