Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
@jimvreeland What do you have planned for this Sat ride, "Advanced Endurance: With Jim Vreeland at Stephens 3+ hours" and how many miles?
It's a modified version of your 8 loop. I added a section and cut out some of the fireroad. We may do your road section instead of Orange but probably not...
https://www.strava.com/activities/1120563456
And @JimN , yes, this is part one of a 75-Mile day I have planned.