A Potted Plant
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Large capra 29what are you looking to buy?
Large capra 29what are you looking to buy?
You want a 160 travel bike?Large capra 29
I'm not buying that statement one bit. Seems politically motivated and not at all related to being honest or forthcoming w/ pricing.
Someone should also screen shot all of bike manufacturers msrp's on their websites. I'd guarantee there won't be a 10% increase this time next month compared to what it is today.
You want a 160 travel bike?
So 4% is price gouging? The litttle guys can/need to adjust prices more rapidly as they don’t have the buffer of the bigger companies to take up slack. So yeah, the big brands won’t show a short term difference but next year the same level bike will be more.I'm not buying that statement one bit. Seems politically motivated and not at all related to being honest or forthcoming w/ pricing.
Someone should also screen shot all of bike manufacturers msrp's on their websites. I'd guarantee there won't be a 10% increase this time next month compared to what it is today.
And the last time you sourced aluminum billet?I'm in the process of building a 100% US built bike. I got the tariff notice with my order as a separate item line. It was like a $40 increase for 6 bearings, which is totally a made up number as I can source US made bearings locally for less than that...View attachment 77242
So 4% is price gouging? The litttle guys can/need to adjust prices more rapidly as they don’t have the buffer of the bigger companies to take up slack. So yeah, the big brands won’t show a short term difference but next year the same level bike will be more.
Before there was any talk of tariffs, I was in the market for another Paul stem. I purchased one when they first came out in 2017? And it was $100-$110, now the price is $123 to $161. Likely due to the huge aluminum price spike in January when tariffs were first threatened. So is Paul to absorb this when they are a just in time shop?
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Yes, for sure some political motivation here but you can go ask Paul and White Industries yourself when they are in Philly next month.
And the last time you sourced aluminum billet?
Maybe?. There prices never seem to stay the same for long. It doesn’t seem like these small guy are stock piling aluminum so the price changes go directly to the consumer.Why not use something longer than a one year price chart? Go back to 2013/14/15 when alum prices are almost exactly where they are now. Was there a price hike back then on those components when a different administration was in charge and “tariffs” weren’t in the news?
So 4% is price gouging? The litttle guys can/need to adjust prices more rapidly as they don’t have the buffer of the bigger companies to take up slack. So yeah, the big brands won’t show a short term difference but next year the same level bike will be more.
Before there was any talk of tariffs, I was in the market for another Paul stem. I purchased one when they first came out in 2017? And it was $100-$110, now the price is $123 to $161. Likely due to the huge aluminum price spike in January when tariffs were first threatened. So is Paul to absorb this when they are a just in time shop?
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Yes, for sure some political motivation here but you can go ask Paul and White Industries yourself when they are in Philly next month.
So you think at 10% increase in a 20 cent raw material cost justifies a $20-$50 increase in finished product price?
Maybe?. There prices never seem to stay the same for long. It doesn’t seem like these small guy are stock piling aluminum so the price changes go directly to the consumer.
That being said, I don’t watch the market value of alum and wait for the next deal for US made parts.
@jimvreeland inguess we will see with the mid range guys, the volume for I-9 and velocity is much greater so who knows.
It's totally a made up number. Most of the smaller US bike companies are filled with hippies so they're all probably anti-trump and using the tariff as a way to cry wolf. I'm convinced it's all political. The rest of them, like Specialized and Giant and Trek, etc, have an actual problem coming up. As do any of us that buy anything made overseas.