I had Ksyrims set up tubeless with Michelin muds for a few seasons and it was really good. Never had any burping issues. Go for it.
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I had Ksyrims set up tubeless with Michelin muds for a few seasons and it was really good. Never had any burping issues. Go for it.
Hillier - Metric
It is, by far, the hardest ride i've ever attempted. Er, done.
Something was "off" this morning. The "routine" wasn't regular.
But I was excited - you know, wagging tail type stuff. Out of the house at 6:00, as
I had everything ready to roll - get to the camp at 6:55.
--- blah blah blah part
Do the usual, register, bathroom (long line), put the kit on, Meet some teammates.
Try to get to the 100mi start to say hello to @David Taylor, and @adogg - and see them rolling away.
I've got a half hour, so grab the bike, and get ready.
Nice neutral rollout to our start, the long way. We go up, rather than down. So bonus altitude with bonus miles.
start up a nice easy climb, followed by a nice dh. I'm stuck to the lead group - but where are my teammates?
Well, one is a big fella, and he doesn't climb so well, the other is a fit lady, that doesn't descend so well.
I soft pedal until they catch me - where i pull them for a couple miles, and they cut me loose, cause they didn't
get to swim before the ride, and they'll probably run a quick half marathon afterwards.
So i bridge back up to the lead group. It is @graveyardman67 and a bunch of other people that can't descend.
I wheel suck for a bit, and we get on some roads i know. No hard effort, just consistent - and we put a gap on the group.
Ends up there is one person in front of us, and the gps route diverges from the road markings. We choose the hard way,
which is the gps route. some went the other.
So Bill and I are with two others out front at this point. Somehow we miss an arrow, and make an extra climb.
The gps goes nuts so we turn around - the other two don't cause they claim it is last year's course. they cut about 5 miles and 1000' of climbing off the ride
and finish early.
We roll into the first rest area at mile 25 of the route - which is closer to 30 because of the neutral start. End up catching the tail of the 100 mile group.
On tap is fiddlers, the hard way. Bill puts in a top 10 effort for the day, and i manage 32/80ish - lots of paperboying obstacles.
i climb it straight up.
here is where it gets funny - i'm on the wall, and switch my grip to the hoods. i accidentally hit the shifter. bam, upshift! holy crap.
i made some noises, but kept going. finished it out, and Bill had looped back for me. Now the long dh before the next climb.
Bill starts pedaling. wtf? I tuck and go with him. Its about a 5 mile dh. We probably passed a dozen people. Anyway, it is time to climb again.
I look at the hill (Fox Farm Rd), and my legs seize! just cramps in the adductors, Bill had some endurolyte, and i had hammer in my bottle.
I fight the cramps for the rest of the ride. Temps in the high 80s -
Did i mention i couldn't find my sun glasses, and ended up wearing an aero helmet? yeah, two little vents - i think my head was toasting in there.
Bill soft pedals and i catch him up top - and we ride around merril creek - this is when we find @sarcaro is making her own route
- she recovered and crushed the ride.
We tool along for another bunch, and my legs seize up again - i can't hold Bill, and he has stuff to do, so off he goes. the next climb is iron bridge. I'm trying to mentally
prepare - as i go across the bridge, everyone is walking. i'm trying to stay mentally strong, but the quads, and feet are starting to join the cramp campaign. I pass everyone walking
and then give in. But i keep moving. My cadence sensor STB so i have no idea how far i walked, but it couldn't be far. strava says 23/91 - i was out-of-it, so don't remember.
rest stop two - mile 50 on the route. 54 on the ticker. i'm thinking i'm home free, and make the nice, easy climbs on charlestown and school roads - some long, but not steep.
i know the roads back here well - not from riding, just driving through the area. I keep pedaling, as this keeps the cramps from setting in. after the last long descent, it is time to
climb mt lebanon rd. the last one with any steep to it. I stopped to mix my water and gatorade - so only one bottle to deal with.
3 people pass me! holy crap - i can't catch them - the hill is brutal. but it goes by. and i hit the final dh to the camp.
yeah, i gave up 2nd place (to bill's first 30 minutes back) on the last hill!!! (the guys that cut the course actually finished in front of him)
---End blah blah
in the end.
5:37 moving time, 6:10 total
67.8 miles
8,323' climbing
Other than having to get off the bike for iron bridge, i'm happy about the performance given the cramping.
The mis-shift was the only gotcha with the bike - oh, and my bars were loose, so they were chirping,
and rolled down a couple times when i leaned on them.
This was awesome, i'm in pain!
no pictures - unless you want to see me hugging the ladies at the finish line - (more teammates)
It is, by far, the hardest ride i've ever attempted. Er, done.
Something was "off" this morning. The "routine" wasn't regular.
But I was excited - you know, wagging tail type stuff. Out of the house at 6:00, as
I had everything ready to roll - get to the camp at 6:55.
--- blah blah blah part
Do the usual, register, bathroom (long line), put the kit on, Meet some teammates.
Try to get to the 100mi start to say hello to @David Taylor, and @adogg - and see them rolling away.
I've got a half hour, so grab the bike, and get ready.
Nice neutral rollout to our start, the long way. We go up, rather than down. So bonus altitude with bonus miles.
start up a nice easy climb, followed by a nice dh. I'm stuck to the lead group - but where are my teammates?
Well, one is a big fella, and he doesn't climb so well, the other is a fit lady, that doesn't descend so well.
I soft pedal until they catch me - where i pull them for a couple miles, and they cut me loose, cause they didn't
get to swim before the ride, and they'll probably run a quick half marathon afterwards.
So i bridge back up to the lead group. It is @graveyardman67 and a bunch of other people that can't descend.
I wheel suck for a bit, and we get on some roads i know. No hard effort, just consistent - and we put a gap on the group.
Ends up there is one person in front of us, and the gps route diverges from the road markings. We choose the hard way,
which is the gps route. some went the other.
So Bill and I are with two others out front at this point. Somehow we miss an arrow, and make an extra climb.
The gps goes nuts so we turn around - the other two don't cause they claim it is last year's course. they cut about 5 miles and 1000' of climbing off the ride
and finish early.
We roll into the first rest area at mile 25 of the route - which is closer to 30 because of the neutral start. End up catching the tail of the 100 mile group.
On tap is fiddlers, the hard way. Bill puts in a top 10 effort for the day, and i manage 32/80ish - lots of paperboying obstacles.
i climb it straight up.
here is where it gets funny - i'm on the wall, and switch my grip to the hoods. i accidentally hit the shifter. bam, upshift! holy crap.
i made some noises, but kept going. finished it out, and Bill had looped back for me. Now the long dh before the next climb.
Bill starts pedaling. wtf? I tuck and go with him. Its about a 5 mile dh. We probably passed a dozen people. Anyway, it is time to climb again.
I look at the hill (Fox Farm Rd), and my legs seize! just cramps in the adductors, Bill had some endurolyte, and i had hammer in my bottle.
I fight the cramps for the rest of the ride. Temps in the high 80s -
Did i mention i couldn't find my sun glasses, and ended up wearing an aero helmet? yeah, two little vents - i think my head was toasting in there.
Bill soft pedals and i catch him up top - and we ride around merril creek - this is when we find @sarcaro is making her own route
- she recovered and crushed the ride.We tool along for another bunch, and my legs seize up again - i can't hold Bill, and he has stuff to do, so off he goes. the next climb is iron bridge. I'm trying to mentally
prepare - as i go across the bridge, everyone is walking. i'm trying to stay mentally strong, but the quads, and feet are starting to join the cramp campaign. I pass everyone walking
and then give in. But i keep moving. My cadence sensor STB so i have no idea how far i walked, but it couldn't be far. strava says 23/91 - i was out-of-it, so don't remember.
rest stop two - mile 50 on the route. 54 on the ticker. i'm thinking i'm home free, and make the nice, easy climbs on charlestown and school roads - some long, but not steep.
i know the roads back here well - not from riding, just driving through the area. I keep pedaling, as this keeps the cramps from setting in. after the last long descent, it is time to
climb mt lebanon rd. the last one with any steep to it. I stopped to mix my water and gatorade - so only one bottle to deal with.
3 people pass me! holy crap - i can't catch them - the hill is brutal. but it goes by. and i hit the final dh to the camp.
yeah, i gave up 2nd place (to bill's first 30 minutes back) on the last hill!!! (the guys that cut the course actually finished in front of him)
---End blah blah
in the end.
5:37 moving time, 6:10 total
67.8 miles
8,323' climbing
Other than having to get off the bike for iron bridge, i'm happy about the performance given the cramping.
The mis-shift was the only gotcha with the bike - oh, and my bars were loose, so they were chirping,
and rolled down a couple times when i leaned on them.
This was awesome, i'm in pain!
no pictures - unless you want to see me hugging the ladies at the finish line - (more teammates)
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I didn't make my own route. Just played it smart lolHillier - Metric
It is, by far, the hardest ride i've ever attempted. Er, done.
Something was "off" this morning. The "routine" wasn't regular.
But I was excited - you know, wagging tail type stuff. Out of the house at 6:00, as
I had everything ready to roll - get to the camp at 6:55.
--- blah blah blah part
Do the usual, register, bathroom (long line), put the kit on, Meet some teammates.
Try to get to the 100mi start to say hello to @David Taylor, and @adogg - and see them rolling away.
I've got a half hour, so grab the bike, and get ready.
Nice neutral rollout to our start, the long way. We go up, rather than down. So bonus altitude with bonus miles.
start up a nice easy climb, followed by a nice dh. I'm stuck to the lead group - but where are my teammates?
Well, one is a big fella, and he doesn't climb so well, the other is a fit lady, that doesn't descend so well.
I soft pedal until they catch me - where i pull them for a couple miles, and they cut me loose, cause they didn't
get to swim before the ride, and they'll probably run a quick half marathon afterwards.
So i bridge back up to the lead group. It is @graveyardman67 and a bunch of other people that can't descend.
I wheel suck for a bit, and we get on some roads i know. No hard effort, just consistent - and we put a gap on the group.
Ends up there is one person in front of us, and the gps route diverges from the road markings. We choose the hard way,
which is the gps route. some went the other.
So Bill and I are with two others out front at this point. Somehow we miss an arrow, and make an extra climb.
The gps goes nuts so we turn around - the other two don't cause they claim it is last year's course. they cut about 5 miles and 1000' of climbing off the ride
and finish early.
We roll into the first rest area at mile 25 of the route - which is closer to 30 because of the neutral start. End up catching the tail of the 100 mile group.
On tap is the a climb out by the river, then return for fiddlers. Bill puts in a top 10 effort for the day, and i manage 32/80ish - lots of paperboying obstacles.
i climb it straight up.
here is where it gets funny - i'm on the wall, and switch to the hoods. i accidentally hit the shifter. bam, i upshift! holy crap.
i made some noises, but kept going. finished it out, and bill had looped back for me. Now the long dh before the next climb.
Bill starts pedaling. wtf? I tuck and go with him. Its about a 5 mile dh. We probably passed a dozen people. Anyway, it is time to climb again.
I look at the hill, and my legs seize! just cramps in the aductors, Bill had some endurolyte, and i had hammer in my bottle.
I fight the cramps for the rest of the ride. Temps in the high 80s -
Did i mention i couldn't find my sun glasses, and ended up wearing an aero helmet? yeah, two little vents - i think my head was toasting in there.
Bill soft pedals and i catch him up top - and we ride around merril creek - this is when we find @sarcaro is making her own route
We tool along for another bunch, and my legs seize up again - i can't hold Bill, and he has stuff to do, so off he goes. the next climb is iron bridge. I'm trying to mentally
prepare - as i go across the bridge, everyone is walking. i'm trying to stay mentally strong, but the quads, and feet are starting to join the cramp campaign. I pass everyone walking
and then give in. But i keep moving. My cadence sensor STB so i have no idea how far i walked, but it couldn't be far. strava says 23/91 - i was out-of-it, so don't remember.
rest stop two - mile 50 on the route. 54 on the ticker. i'm thinking i'm home free, and make the nice, easy climbs on charlestown and school roads - some long, but not steep.
i know the roads back here well - not from riding, just driving through the area. I keep pedaling, as this keeps the cramps from setting in. after the last long descent, it is time to
climb mt lebanon rd. the last one with any steep to it. I stopped to mix my water and gatorade - so only one bottle to deal with.
3 people pass me! holy crap - i can't catch them - the hill is brutal. but it goes by. and i hit the final dh to the camp.
yeah, i gave up 2nd place (to bill's first 30 minutes back) on the last hill!!! (the guys that cut the course actually finished in front of him)
---End blah blah
in the end.
5:37 moving time, 6:10 total
67.8 miles
8,323' climbing
Other than having to get off the bike for iron bridge, i'm happy about the performance giving the cramping.
The mis-shift was the only gotcha with the bike - oh, and my bars were loose, so they were chirping,
and rolled down a couple times when i leaned on them.
This was awesome, i'm in pain!
no pictures - unless you want to see me hugging the ladies at the finish line - (more teammates)
rlb
Well-Known Member
If we get a somerset locals ride going maybe we can work up to a century that doesn't require you to be a goat. That's a start!
Juggernaut
Master of the Metaphor
Nice write up Pat! Harsh conditions for sure...going into it way back when with the thought that it might be cold-n-wet and then "Ma Nature" decided to have "a cook out" gotta f'with your head. Great job by all.
cramps suck. A LOT. very nice work finishing. pain can make rides poopy.
that's all i got.
that's all i got.
oh damn, you spanked @rick81721's time. And @jimvreeland's time too! Looks like we have a player in the hills/.
Fiddlers: MTBNJ
Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 8.6mi/h - 233W 1,120.9 10:02
2 Kevin McElwain Nov 13, 2013 8.4mi/h - 273W 1,091.9 10:18
3 Christopher Columbo Sep 22, 2013 7.9mi/h 163bpm 244W 1,031.8 10:54
4 christian kubick May 5, 2012 7.9mi/h 162bpm 277W 1,027.1 10:57
5 Jeremy Short May 10, 2013 7.7mi/h 166bpm 271W
1,005.6 11:11
6 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 174bpm 239W 993.8 11:19
7 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 151bpm 290W
990.9 11:21
8 diego gonzalez Sep 25, 2016 7.5mi/h - 239W 985.1 11:25
9 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.1mi/h 165bpm 241W 930.7 12:05
10 patrick mariani Sep 24, 2017 6.8mi/h 148bpm 216W 886.7 12:41
11 TURBO SS Sep 24, 2017 6.8mi/h 163bpm 236W
883.2 12:44
12 Tony Fontana Sep 24, 2017 6.6mi/h 170bpm 193W 866.2 12:59
13 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 6.5mi/h 155bpm 259W
847.7 13:16
14 Tom Gockel Sep 29, 2012 6.1mi/h 136bpm 197W 801.4 14:02
15 Rick Robinson Nov 16, 2013 5.9mi/h 162bpm 180W 771.2 14:35
Oh shit, hold that, he spanked you hard on Iron Bridge
Iron Bridge: MTBNJ
Kevin McElwain Aug 7, 2014 8.1mi/h - 301W 1,252.3 7:15
2 Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 7.6mi/h - 232W 1,186.8 7:39
3 Jeremy Short Aug 11, 2014 7.5mi/h 163bpm 311W
1,166.5 7:47
4 diego gonzalez Aug 28, 2017 7.1mi/h 133bpm 266W 1,100.5 8:15
5 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.0mi/h 171bpm 269W 1,087.3 8:21
6 Christopher Columbo Aug 16, 2012 6.4mi/h 162bpm 215W 997.7 9:06
6 Jaime Castrillon Mar 19, 2017 6.4mi/h 168bpm 260W 997.7 9:06
8 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 6.3mi/h 146bpm 289W
976.3 9:18
9 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 5.8mi/h 151bpm 245W
898.9 10:06
10 Rick Robinson Jun 25, 2015 5.6mi/h - 183W 866.1 10:29
11 TURBO SS Sep 25, 2016 4.2mi/h 159bpm 219W 647.0 14:02
12 Tony Fontana Sep 25, 2016 4.1mi/h - 176W 640.9 14:10
13 Tom Gockel Oct 7, 2012 4.1mi/h 143bpm 206W 634.2 14:19
14 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 4.0mi/h 170bpm 218W 625.4 14:31
15 Dima Kurki Aug 15, 2015 3.8mi/h 166bpm 242W
596.7 15:13
16 patrick mariani Sep 24, 2017 3.5mi/h 136bpm 181W 544.8 16:40
NEVERMIND
Fiddlers: MTBNJ
Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 8.6mi/h - 233W 1,120.9 10:02
2 Kevin McElwain Nov 13, 2013 8.4mi/h - 273W 1,091.9 10:18
3 Christopher Columbo Sep 22, 2013 7.9mi/h 163bpm 244W 1,031.8 10:54
4 christian kubick May 5, 2012 7.9mi/h 162bpm 277W 1,027.1 10:57
5 Jeremy Short May 10, 2013 7.7mi/h 166bpm 271W
6 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 174bpm 239W 993.8 11:19
7 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 7.6mi/h 151bpm 290W
8 diego gonzalez Sep 25, 2016 7.5mi/h - 239W 985.1 11:25
9 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.1mi/h 165bpm 241W 930.7 12:05
10 patrick mariani Sep 24, 2017 6.8mi/h 148bpm 216W 886.7 12:41
11 TURBO SS Sep 24, 2017 6.8mi/h 163bpm 236W
12 Tony Fontana Sep 24, 2017 6.6mi/h 170bpm 193W 866.2 12:59
13 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 6.5mi/h 155bpm 259W
14 Tom Gockel Sep 29, 2012 6.1mi/h 136bpm 197W 801.4 14:02
15 Rick Robinson Nov 16, 2013 5.9mi/h 162bpm 180W 771.2 14:35
Oh shit, hold that, he spanked you hard on Iron Bridge
Iron Bridge: MTBNJ
Kevin McElwain Aug 7, 2014 8.1mi/h - 301W 1,252.3 7:15
2 Chris Compton Jul 19, 2015 7.6mi/h - 232W 1,186.8 7:39
3 Jeremy Short Aug 11, 2014 7.5mi/h 163bpm 311W
4 diego gonzalez Aug 28, 2017 7.1mi/h 133bpm 266W 1,100.5 8:15
5 Norm Zurawski Aug 1, 2009 7.0mi/h 171bpm 269W 1,087.3 8:21
6 Christopher Columbo Aug 16, 2012 6.4mi/h 162bpm 215W 997.7 9:06
6 Jaime Castrillon Mar 19, 2017 6.4mi/h 168bpm 260W 997.7 9:06
8 Jeff Mandell Sep 22, 2013 6.3mi/h 146bpm 289W
9 Jim Vreeland Sep 16, 2013 5.8mi/h 151bpm 245W
10 Rick Robinson Jun 25, 2015 5.6mi/h - 183W 866.1 10:29
11 TURBO SS Sep 25, 2016 4.2mi/h 159bpm 219W 647.0 14:02
12 Tony Fontana Sep 25, 2016 4.1mi/h - 176W 640.9 14:10
13 Tom Gockel Oct 7, 2012 4.1mi/h 143bpm 206W 634.2 14:19
14 Christopher Michaloski Sep 22, 2013 4.0mi/h 170bpm 218W 625.4 14:31
15 Dima Kurki Aug 15, 2015 3.8mi/h 166bpm 242W
16 patrick mariani Sep 24, 2017 3.5mi/h 136bpm 181W 544.8 16:40
NEVERMIND
Nice job, especially given the heat!
But wait, did you just say Bill can't descend?
kinda reads that way - but i found myself following bill, again, at 40+ - nothing good can come of that.
@stb222 - i'll need to make IB a target climb of one of my rides...
not for nothing, but the rest stop was in the segment - 13:10 moving time. still well short of rick, but
right in front of DT!!! (oh, wait, he stopped too)
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Cliff version: I suffered, and finished.
Ok, that is better then.
I always wondered if I could do better on IB if I did it before mile 90 of a solo ride. But honestly I don't honk it makes much of a difference since those climbs are just about turning the pedals over.